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I built an offline smart home, and why you should too (www.androidauthority.com)

submitted 10 months ago by haxor@derp.foo to c/hackernews@derp.foo

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[–] Auzy@beehaw.org -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Depends what you're automating.. Home Assistant isn't really suitable for larger homes, and it REALLY sucks at AV control compared to commercial systems.

It might be better than Google Assistant and Alexa, but its nowhere near high end systems

[–] Astongt615@lemmy.one 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What are "high end alternatives?"

[–] Auzy@beehaw.org 0 points 10 months ago

Large homes tend to use products like crestron or control4 which deal with AV better.

I've installed in houses which are literally 16 TVs and 32 audio zones.

Some products even work together with companies like this for native enhancements to their products to allow better control

That being said, some things in HA are cool

[–] alexrmay91@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How is it not suitable for larger homes?

[–] Auzy@beehaw.org 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

AV control mainly. I've automated homes with 16 TVs and such.

[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There's "larger homes" and then there's "mansions". No normal family needs more TVs than people...

[–] Auzy@beehaw.org 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The other problem also comes down to developing support for products which may require proprietary protocols or confidential API keys and such. To my knowledge, HA is in Python and doesn't really allow it properly.

It really depends what level of integration you're going for. But products like Control4 and Elan have proper fully integrated remotes which allow easy control of AV too.

So, if free is your goal, ha will get many things done fine. But, just be aware if you don't mind paying or are looking for commercial jobs, you should also at least look at the other options.

[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I've got zero smart home stuff, and have no intention of setting it up any time soon. I just don't see the need. I'm just glad self-hosting stuff offline is getting easier.

[–] Auzy@beehaw.org 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

For schlubs like us, not really that useful.

I only use it for turning on my ac/heating remotely using sensibo and for lights really. But I can use 2 apps for that

But, if you have multi story house or a large house, at a minimum, you really need a quick way to turn everything off with one press when leaving as an example and to ensure everything is locked. We also do things like allow all TV's to see the CCTV, get alerts for pool, etc

Some home automation stuff though is pointless or a bad idea. And there are rich people who definitely do it to show off their house.

Commercial jobs also often need it, because people can't be expected to know how to work the remotes, and lights need occupancy, etc. Also, there are considerations for emergencies and such

HA is basically a step above Google and Alexa, but some jobs need the stronger stuff

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Where does it come up short?

[–] Auzy@beehaw.org 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

AV control in particular.

You also can't develop device support for it in a nice way which requires confidential information to be stored