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[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

While it's very stark, I doubt you'll find many countries treating their billionaires the same as their workers.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Having company doesn't make it good or correct.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Who here said it was good or correct?

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

It's the natural implication of downplaying the seriousness of something. Saying other countries suck too is not only what-about-ism, but is directly diluting the seriousness of the offense.

"Everybody does it" is classic children's logic and a fallacy.

[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 4 points 10 months ago

You're putting words in my mouth so you can shit on a country on particular.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think the statement is more of a “It’s difficult to avoid this problem” than an “it’s fine because everyone does it”

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago

Again, I didn't say it because I expect it to be the common interpretation. Why the fuck is everyone so confused by hedging against Poe's Law?! Do you all fucking suck this badly at discussing nuance? Someone clarifies one thing and you're... angry at them??

Fucking pathetic.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I think you are looking way too hard into it based on whatever preconceived issue you have.

Nothing you said has any baring on this particular issue.

Absolutely no one here has said what's going on is good.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world -4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Good job failing to understand that this is not a conversation between me and you. I said what I said to avoid Poe's Law. Just because you didn't need the obvious stated does not mean everyone will avoid taking implications, even ones that aren't strictly there.

If you think that's unneccessary, then you should try having more conversations where you're trying to get multiple people to understand something. You HAVE to be clear, or others WILL wander in to the weeds and take the completely wrong lesson from something.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Considering I'm only one of many people that think what you're saying isn't right in this context, you should probably follow your own advice.

[–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Did you miss the part where they are rich and connected thus better than us? /s

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If The Invisible Hand has bestowed you with wealth, clearly you are blessed among men, and the priests in their robes give you deference for your holiness.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That's not what the fucking "invisible hand" is! It's what lots of idiots (not talking about you, just in general) think it is, but they're wrong!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2015/03/11/adam-smiths-invisible-hand-really-isnt-what-you-think-it-is/