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‘Impossible’ to create AI tools like ChatGPT without copyrighted material, OpenAI says::Pressure grows on artificial intelligence firms over the content used to train their products

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[–] AntY@lemmy.world 52 points 10 months ago (5 children)

The main difference between the two in your analogy, that has great bearing on this particular problem, is that the machine learning model is a product that is to be monetized.

[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

And ultimately replace the humans it learned from.

[–] Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net 0 points 10 months ago

Good, I want AI to do all my work for me

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

Yes clearly 90 years plus death of artist is acceptable

[–] BURN@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Also an “AI” is not human, and should not be regulated as such

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Neither is a corporation and yet they claim first amendment rights.

[–] BURN@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That’s an entirely separate problem, but is certainly a problem

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't think it is. We have all these non-human stuff we are awarding more rights to than we have. You can't put a corporation in jail but you can put me in jail. I don't have freedom from religion but a corporation does.

[–] BURN@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Corporations are not people, and should not be treated as such.

If a company does something illegal, the penalty should be spread to the board. It’d make them think twice about breaking the law.

We should not be awarding human rights to non-human, non-sentient creations. LLMs and any kind of Generative AI are not human and should not in any case be treated as such.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Corporations are not people, and should not be treated as such.

Understand. Please tell Disney that they no longer own Mickey Mouse.

[–] BURN@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Again, I literally already said that it’s a problem.

IP law is also different than granting rights to corporations. Corporations SHOULD be allowed to own IP, provided they’ve compensated the creator.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

For 90 years after the ceator's death?

[–] BURN@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, yes. I’m ok with that. People are not entitled to be able to do anything they want with someone else’s IP. 90 years is almost reasonable. Cut it in half and I’d also consider it fairly reasonable.

I’m all for expanding copyright for individuals and small companies (small media companies, photographers who are incorporated, artists who make money based on commissions, etc) and reducing it for mega corps, but there’s an extremely fine line around that.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago

Well I am not. If the goal is to promote artistic creation it should not follow inheritance. Heck it shouldn't even be 45 years. No one at Disney was alive when Mickey was made therefore it should be public domain.

Once you fix that let me know.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)
[–] testfactor@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

And real children aren't in a capitalist society?