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Being a drug addict does not make you working class.
He glamourises drugs and other grubby behaviour and makes a living out of being obnoxious, until people call him out on it, at which point he turns on the waterworks and does the "oh poor little street kid me" act.
He left his single parent home at 16 before turning to drugs. How was he not working class. He's an ex-drug addict and doesn't glamourise them at all. I don't even like him, but the facts are out there.
What do you think "working class" means?
You obviously haven't seen any of his material. He's built his whole career on drugs. Find a clip where he's not talking about them.
You want me to find a clip of Russell Brand not talking about drugs? Wow.. impossible.
Working class is anyone from the social group of unskilled or manual/industrial work. The people who work these jobs and their families/children. Like Russell Brand. He's not working class anymore, but he just factually was as a child. Weird hill to die on.
...which proves my point.
You don't seem to understand what the argument is about.
There isn't an argument, you called him the fakest piece of shit around and then suggested he was some kind of privileged upper class toff pretending to be an Essex urchin. But the obvious reality is he presents himself as he is. You chose the dumbest attack you could have. Attack his politics or something.
Nope, you need to work on your reading comprehension. You'll think youve won every time if all you do is straw man.
Presumably you're not providing anything substantive like a point or evidence because you know you chatted shit with nothing to back it up.
Lol presumably you're ignoring the actual argument because you can't handle being wrong
You said he wasn't working class. He was. You said he is a drug addict. He isn't. You said all his material is about drugs, it obviously isn't. Just saying falsehoods isn't an argument.
Working class film star? You don't seem to understand what that actually means.
You couldn't find a clip of him not talking about drugs.
Your argument amounts to "nuh uh". Go on now, time to get ready, the school bus is on its way
I haven't provided a clip of him NOT talking about drugs because that is such a dumbfuck statement.as to not warrant a real response but if you insist;
https://youtu.be/xeLuvhCurfk
Gosh he just can't shut up about them can he? Actually he can and most of the time he isn't talking about drugs. Shocker.
OBVIOUSLY at the point of being a film star he was no longer working class. Jesus. I've never said he is CURRENTLY working class, but he is not Working Class in income only. And because Working Class is an amorphous social group, he has more of a claim to it than many other people. Therefore he is a working class man from Essex who became rich and famous. I think you're the one who needs to go to school if you need it spelt out for you so laboriously. His mannerisms and experience and outward appearance are a result of his working class upbringing, money doesn't suddenly give you an RP accent and a Habsburg's Jaw.
OBVIOUSLY
No, you haven't proven that at all. Being from a single parent household does not make you working class. Being born in Essex does not make you working class.
You're just making shit up, son
So a single mother with no qualifications living in Grays, a grim Essex town and raising her son by herself is what? Middle class? I don't know why you're so desperate to gatekeep being poor.
I don't know why you're so desperate to suck his dick
I've not said anything positive about him, but OK. At least you've admitted you were wrong.
You sure love making shit up when you can't provide an actual argument
You can just make shit up. The reality is literally written down above these messages.
You complain at me having no argument, yet you've clearly conceded whatever yours was as you've provided nothing of substance.
https://www.readingrockets.org/reading-101/reading-and-writing-basics/reading-comprehension