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RIP Microsoft WordPad. You Will Be Missed::It's truly the end of an era as we say farewell to a real one.

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[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 85 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Is becoming? It already has been for decades. I think the extent of adding an entire VBA automation backend was somewhere near the tipping point...

Fortunately LibreOffice is a thing for anyone who wants a $0 rich text capable editor, and I'm sure there are a zillion other alternatives by now both open source and not.

[–] Ottomateeverything@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, "becoming" is a strange choice of wording.... Word has been bloated and overkill for 2 decades at this point.

Libre Office is still bulky for anything I want on my PC. If I'm going to do any serious writing, I'm using Google Docs for backups and such. If I'm doing quick txt edits I'm using Sublime or Notepad. I use wordpad for stuff in the middle so I will definitely miss it and not sure how to solve this problem.

That said, I'm not fucking installing Win 11 so guess this isn't a problem till 12.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Why would you install windows 12?

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Right? Even setting aside the inevitable "have you considered Linux?" chat, if you're the kind of person who refuses to install Windows 11, why would you be sure you'll install Windows 12?

We've seen nothing to suggest Windows won't just continue to get less usable, more bloated, more spyware-ridden, and just generally more anti-consumer.

[–] leave_it_blank@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Up to XP I used several dos versions, win3.1, 95, 98, 98SE, and then XP. From there I skipped one version, so 7, then 10. Worked out pretty well so far. So my next windows will hopefully also be 12, and I hope it will have a better UI than 11.

Linux is also interesting, but I like gaming without fiddling too much with my operating system, I just don't want to commit my rare spare time to that. I want install -> play.

[–] kwedd@feddit.nl 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Linux is also interesting, but I like gaming without fiddling too much with my operating system, I just don't want to commit my rare spare time to that. I want install -> play.

With Proton, running Windows games from Steam has become pretty much click-and-play. If you do all your gaming through Steam, most games just work.

[–] leave_it_blank@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Sadly I do non of my gaming through steam. But someone else might find this answer useful!

[–] Ottomateeverything@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

why would you be sure you'll install Windows 12?

I'm not, my post said this isn't an issue till 12, as in, I'm not even considering 11, but I will consider 12.

That said, you can't stay on 10 forever without losing modern software support and modern drivers and security updates after EOL... So you basically HAVE to move at some point. My point was just in not touching 11. But it's unlikely that you'll be able to keep a Win 10 device running till 13 so... It's either 11 or 12 and with the way Microsofts cycles go, 12 likely will be better than 11.

If not... Well... Maybe Linux and proton will have caught up and Nvidia will actually make drivers etc etc. But not worth worrying about that yet.

[–] Ottomateeverything@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

For the same reason I'm not still running 7...because you can't actually stay on one version forever. I'm going to put the whole Linux thing aside because... Yeah, that's a topic of its own and I think anyone with half a mind knows the reasons why Linux isn't everyone's first choice.

But at some point Win 10 will reach EOL and will stop receiving updates. It'll stop receiving new versions of DirectX etc. People will stop making drivers for it. Software will start requiring things in newer versions of Windows, etc. The list goes on, but inevitably you have to update.

Luckily with Windows, you can usually skip one full release, but you can't really make it past 2. Hence why I said 12. Am I crazy about the way 12 is shaping out? No. But you'd be crazy to think that you can just remain on 10 forever so I'm being realistic.

Also, Windows is well known to have a shitty even/odd cycle where every other release sucks and the alternating ones are less bad. So hopefully 12 will be the same. For example, 95 was really good, 98 was meh, XP was fantastic, ME/2000 are kind of a joke, Vista sucked, 7 was good enough, 8 was miserable, 10 was okay, 11 is awful... So if the pattern continues, 12 should be better than 11 at least.

I didn't think this actually needed an answer but... Maybe I'm getting old and am too used to Microsofts cycles. Also, my point was "this isn't a problem till 12" meaning, I'm not touching 11 so it doesn't even matter till I start considering 12. Never said I was definitively doing it.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

2000

yeah someone never used nt4 would think that. gha.

Windows 2000 pro and server 2000 were enormous steps up in QOL and functionality.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

At some point I’d think you would have left windows behind for most daily tasks. I left around 20 years ago and haven’t had a problem at all.

[–] Ottomateeverything@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, okay, so this was all just a "Omg just use Linux" type post.

Not everyone can conveniently just ditch a major OS for something with less support. Like I said before, there is a reason everyone isn't just jumping ship for Linux. People have plenty of legitimate reasons for it from work, to time commitment, to driver support, required software that doesn't support it, etc.

Good for you that you can switch and deal. Not everyone can. I'm not sure why so many Linux proponents are entirely fucking blind literally every possible reason that might keep someone off Linux and have to come fucking flying in on crusades on some fucking high horse of "Oooh, what peasants, of course everyone should just be switching to Linux!"

Fuck off with your condescending bullshit.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Ottomateeverything@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Same problems, different name, and some new problems thrown in on top. Moving along.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago
[–] pirat@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I must admit, I really enjoyed fucking around in M$ Office 2003 (PowerPoint, FrontPage and more) as a kid — we made our own fictional "OS" Desktop Environments in PowerPoint, copying text boxes, drop-down menus etc. from FrontPage. It had a lot of new features that Office XP didn't have, which made our projects much cooler. It was like the best of both worlds, since it had a somewhat classic UI but also added features we found interesting for our weird niche usecase. Since Office 2003, it's only been getting worse, IMO.

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago

I like LibreOffice, I used it it university, and before Libre I used openoffice and staroffice before that.

BUT! Since working in an ms office reliant organization for more than 10 years, I've become addicted to ms office's grammar checks and integration with onedrive/sharepoint. Version control is integrated, I don't have to alt tab to a terminal to submit to svn/git, and we have comments and live collaboration.

I sometimes wish that I could have working grammar check in other software than microsoft's. Writing my final thesis in word, only to copy the sections into texniccenter for layout was tedious.

[–] Octopus1348@lemy.lol 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

OnlyOffice if you want an editor similar to Word. I switched to it also because LibreOffice's UI bugged out and I didn't see any buttons.

[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

Thanks! I'm trying it out and see if it meets my meager needs for home use office type software. It seems lighter weight than LibreOffice.

[–] nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info 1 points 10 months ago

I like to think that LibreOffice is a great alternative to those used to 2003 and older MS Office, and OnlyOffice is a good alternative to those used to post-2003 MS Office.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

VBA automation backend

That was in the first Word for Windows for 1989. The scripting built into word was later rebranded as VBA. I used it in 1990 to replicate the "Give me a Cookie" prank that was on Vax/VMS at the time.