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[–] AlbigensianGhoul@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Care to elaborate? AFAIK, forced labour under the threat of harm and no conditions for escape fits very well into most modern definitions of slavery. But go on, why should I support Ukraine despite this?

[–] hypelightfly@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

They are being invaded.

But you don't care about that, you're a tankie who defends genocide.

[–] AlbigensianGhoul@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I don't follow. Yes, they are at war. How does that justify labour conscriptions and banning fleeing? I do care about people not dying and having dignity, you see. But sending teenagers into slaughter or forcing them to work to that same slaughter industry doesn't help anybody. It is basically a self-genocide by the Ukrainian government. No wonder that it started as a war against eastern Ukrainians.

Who here exactly defends genocide when the only thing I want in this war is for the suicidal tactics of the Ukrainian government to pause for a second so that civilians can flee and live better lives elsewhere? But you don't care about that, you're a liberal who will justify every war crime from your favourite North Atlantic countries and their puppet governments, under the guise of empathy.

See, 2 can play that game of ad hominem. Answer the question: "How is this not comparable to a modern slave state?"

Theres also a difference between these actions to defend a far right corrupt regime and some actual democracy

[–] American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You're excusing the genocide of the separatist regions and making up nonsense about this being ww2 2.0. You're the real genocide denier.

[–] hypelightfly@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Proving once again you're just a genocide apologist willing to use "genocide" to excuse a genocide.

[–] American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

bro i'm not the one pretending this war is a genocide against Ukrainians

[–] hypelightfly@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago

You literally are.