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[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So you think seeing the entire spectrum of earth lifeforms is equivalent to reality tv shows?

[–] Nudding@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

In a post scarcity society capable of folding dimensions for space travel, or can survive for thousands of years in regular space flight, yeah absolutely, do you watch cells divide for entertainment?

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well, I don't, but some scientists are tasked with it so someone does whether "fun" is the reason or not.

[–] Nudding@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They do it for pay so they don't starve. We are very much not in a post scarcity society.

[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You have such a void of interest and wonder that Im beginning to think you are the aliens we are talking about.

You think scientists study for pay? We find ways to get paid so we dont starve from the studying. The study is the point, it always has been

[–] Nudding@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Maybe you're right.

[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes, 100% every time, yes, for the same reason people crouch and watch in fascination as the ants and the springtails go about their unfathomable business.

How do you not have this curiosity of the endless wonder beneath your feet

[–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It died when I realized I was born into the species that kills all the other species.

[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thats just more reasons to be studying those species before they die out so we can properly prevent the dying.

Thats, like, 40% of my job

[–] Nudding@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We are still competing when we should have been cooperating 50 years ago as a global society. There is no preventing the coming catastrophe Imo.

[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh, well in that case youre flat faced wrong. We can absolutely avert a large amount of the damage coming, easy.

It will require a lot of legislation to reign in corporation pollution and ecological destruction, but we arent even close to the event horizon. Quit reading doom and gloom fluff pieces.

[–] Nudding@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You sound young. Keep up the hope.

[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Ive already told you I work in the field of ecology.

Its not hope, its the conclusions derived from the work I do.

The conclusions which get cut in half, summarized, misread, reworded, and then dramatized by doom and gloom fluff pieces to get clicks.

Do me a favor? Pull your head out of your ass before it gets stuck around your jawline. We arent fucked yet, but your shitbrained attitude is doing its best to make sure we get fucked.

[–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Great, hope you're right 👍

[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Do you? Cause it sounds like you dont think Im wrong, rather that you want me to be.

Its not a normal response to have someone who works with the thing your concerned about telling you its not as bad as youve heard and you call them naive and young.

[–] Nudding@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Honestly no, I hope humans destroy themselves before we can spread to other planets.

People a lot smarter than you or I have been arguing about this for decades. Have you read the Limits to Growth? Do you think we will magically become a sustainable circular economy before crop failure starts to happen? We're gonna capitalism our way right off the cliff baby.

[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Ill be honest, people a lot smarter than you and I have mathematically proven we can easily maintain crop production for the demonstrated planetary carrying capacity of the human species. They teach you this when you study macrobio.

Its not going to happen under capitalistic economies, obviously, but capitalism is a fucking young and fragile system. It will break centuries before the planet even comes close to breaking.

Seriously, you need to stop reading doom and gloom popsci bullshit. Its filling your head with nihilistic statistical manipulations and flat lies.

We are in trouble in the same way your grades were in trouble in high school the night before a midterm you didnt study for. You need to cram to pass this test, but failing the test doesnt mean you will be expelled and then shot out back like a lame horse. It doesnt even mean youre going to fail the class yet.

Im not kidding, stressing about this is literally what I do for a living. When the person who spends both professional and personal hours actively studying this mess is telling you its not as bad as youre freaking out over, maybe listen to them.

[–] Nudding@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Great patronization, I hope you feel better now. I can't wait for the peaceful global transition away from capitalism lol.