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[–] Jezebelley3D@kbin.social 152 points 10 months ago (22 children)

It absolutely blows my mind that a twice impeached insurrectionist single term president is not only running again but allowed to.

What the fuck is wrong with the USA?

[–] Know_not_Scotty_does@lemmy.world 83 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Don't forget, he is the leading candidate for that party too...

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 57 points 10 months ago (3 children)

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The thing is, the 14th Amendment, Section 3 isn’t vague on this point - he IS disqualified:

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.

Look at the wording - it’s clearly intended to be an automatic disqualification. The only way you could possibly arrive at the conclusion that the Office of the President is exempt from this section is by jumping through frankly absurd and facile semantic hoops.

But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

Pointedly, the only way Congress should be involved (per the relevant section) is in rescinding the disqualification.

[–] silkroadtraveler@lemmy.today 29 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The Supreme Court is prepared to jump through those hoops. They’ve practiced long and hard for this opportunity.

[–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 16 points 10 months ago

Clarence Thomas's Patreon is quite well funded, so it'd be dishonest if he didn't.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

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Well, they’re only appointed for life, and they did somewhat recently vastly broaden the scope of the 2nd Amendment, and political violence is on the rise, so I wouldn’t be shocked if one or more people decided enough is enough and conducted a “citizen’s kinetic impeachment”, as it were.

Regardless of how things ultimately turn out, things are definitely 10/10 fucky, and I absolutely hate it.

[–] nomous@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Unfortunately the "left" in the US is full of thinky ideologues and very few people of action.

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[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Plus Trump is a rapist.

Traitor rapist is not the horse I would have expected the gop to hitch their cart to.

But here we are

[–] Jezebelley3D@kbin.social 16 points 10 months ago

Christians love him!

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

He's also allowed to run again despite declaring victory the last time, meaning that he is ineligible to run by his own reasoning.

[–] NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social 7 points 10 months ago

We’re available for purchase by the highest bidder!

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Right? I mean if justice can be aborted/ sidetracked by a simple appeal, how effective is it? Surely he was found to be liable by a judge, the ruling should stand during the appeal, not be put on hold.

[–] M500@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago

I honestly do not think he will be allowed to take office. I just think things are moving at. Slow pace to make sure things are done correctly.

Probably in some hopes that he will just stop running on his own or something.

But I doubt that he will ever make his way back into office.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Who are these people supporting him, and how can we possibly go on living in the same country with them?

My thoughts exactly.

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 10 months ago

What the fuck is wrong with the USA?

  • The Electoral College (and land based instead of population based representation)
  • The Citizens United decision (unlimited money to campaign)
  • First Past the Post voting (mathematically determined 2 party extremism)

Not necessarily in that order. Fixing any one would put the country many degrees to the left though.

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