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When a researcher and publisher withholds information then ignores requests -- what’s the recourse? How can science have integrity? in c/scicomm@mander.xyz

[–] plantteacher@mander.xyz 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They could try to say that but I doubt people would believe it.

Who throws away their own code particularly when it’s not junky commercial code but code their heart and soul was behind on a non-profit project? I keep my old code around if anything just to be able to search it to re-teach myself coding and design tips I forgot about. This code backs their research which they may need to refer to when a prospective employer asks for detail on how they executed the study.

Effective Activist: An Evidence-Based Guide to Progressive Social Change in c/scicomm@mander.xyz

[–] plantteacher@mander.xyz 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

ah, I’ve seen that before.. i recall the violence measurements. Glad to have a copy of that.

When a researcher and publisher withholds information then ignores requests -- what’s the recourse? How can science have integrity? in c/scicomm@mander.xyz

[–] plantteacher@mander.xyz 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Maybe the acknowledgments gives a hint?

ACKNOWLEDGMENTS We would like to thank Kelly Idouchi, Manya Sleeper, James T. Graves, and Celine Berger for their contributions to this project. Similarly, we thank Chris Hoofnagle, Daniel Solove, and the attendees of the 2014 Privacy Law Scholars Conference (PLSC) for valuable feedback on an earlier version of this work.

(edit) there is also this about page and perhaps this lab was involved.

When a researcher and publisher withholds information then ignores requests -- what’s the recourse? How can science have integrity? in c/scicomm@mander.xyz

[–] plantteacher@mander.xyz 4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/2911988

When a researcher and publisher withholds information then ignores requests -- what’s the recourse? How can science have integrity? in c/scicomm@mander.xyz

[–] plantteacher@mander.xyz 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Oh, wow.. I wasn’t expecting that reply. I was actually looking to discuss in general how to address this variety of issue. It was a few years ago but the code would still be interesting to see. I dug this up:

https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/2911988

And now that I dug back into this, I must make a correction. ACM replied to say they are looking for the missing material.. then they never found it and they dropped the ball at that point and also neglected correct the description. AFAIK, ACM did not try to reach the researchers, who ignored my inquiries.

(Irrelevant trivia: ACM used to be in Cloudflare’s access-restricted walled garden, making it difficult to access research. They are still in that shitty place but at least they are now whitelisting Tor which slightly reduces their exclusivity.)

Effective Activist: An Evidence-Based Guide to Progressive Social Change in c/scicomm@mander.xyz

[–] plantteacher@mander.xyz 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Yes, if it’s not too big.

If you want to host it somewhere, https://drop.infini.fr can handle PDFs.

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When a researcher and publisher withholds information then ignores requests -- what’s the recourse? How can science have integrity? (mander.xyz)

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The ACM.org website published the work of a team at Carnegie Mellon (#CMU) which was said to include source code. Then the code was omitted from the attached ZIP file, which only contained another copy of the paper. I asked the lead researcher (a prof) for the code and was ignored. Also asked the other researchers (apparently students), who also ignored the request. The code would have made it possible to reproduce the research and verify it. ACM ~~also ignored my request and~~ also neglected to fix the misinfo (the claim on the page that source code is available). Correction: ACM replied and tried to find the missing code but then just gave up.

It seems like this should taint the research in some way. Why don’t they want people reproducing the research? If the idea is that scientific research is “peer reviewed” for integrity, it seems like a façade if reviewers don’t have a voice. Or is there some kind of 3rd party who would call this out?

Effective Activist: An Evidence-Based Guide to Progressive Social Change in c/scicomm@mander.xyz

[–] plantteacher@mander.xyz 1 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

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Cockroach milk healthier than almond milk? Yes, in fact could be among “the most nutritious substances on earth” in c/publichealth@mander.xyz

[–] plantteacher@mander.xyz 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah we do eat some disgusting things. What works on me is if you start feeding it to me before I know what it is. Then after I’m accustomed to something it takes a higher level of disgust to turn me.

Hot dogs in fact crossed that threshold. I ate them as a kid then one day questioned what they were, heard John Candy call them lips and assholes, saw a video of that pink slime in big vats, and that turned me. No more hot dogs for me. OTOH, I had a quite tasty vegan hotdog that was good at simulating the real thing using nuts.

I’ve mostly ditched dairy milk out of a combination of mild disgust coupled with better alternatives (coconut milk). I’ll do Bailley’s but pass on the milk stout beers.

Anyway, you can feed bugs and cockroach milk to your kids and maybe they grow up accustomed to it.

Cockroach milk healthier than almond milk? Yes, in fact could be among “the most nutritious substances on earth” in c/publichealth@mander.xyz

[–] plantteacher@mander.xyz 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I’ve lived in roach infested regions and encountered many. But never smelled them. Are you holding them up to your nose? I’m not sure I ever got closer than ~50cm from one. I wonder if you have an extra sensitive olfactory sense.

In any case, the odor could be a defense mechanism perhaps sucreted and maybe not in the milk. The smell of fish is off putting to me but I can eat a fresh prepared white fish because the odor of the meat is fine.

Cockroach milk healthier than almond milk? Yes, in fact could be among “the most nutritious substances on earth” in c/publichealth@mander.xyz

[–] plantteacher@mander.xyz 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Goat cheese tastes like goats smell.

I occassionally visited someone with a goat farm. The odor around the farm was quite distinct and far from pleasant. Then when I tried goat cheese, the taste was spot-on the same as the external odor of goats. Really put me off. I cannot do goat cheese because of that. Yet goat cheese is somewhat popular so I don’t get it. I wonder if aroma is unimportant to some people.

Cockroach milk healthier than almond milk? Yes, in fact could be among “the most nutritious substances on earth” in c/publichealth@mander.xyz

[–] plantteacher@mander.xyz 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Not sure why that is necessarily the case. Recall how wine was made at one point: people barefeet got in a tub of grapes and smashed them by running around. Roach milk could be a matter of rounding up some 8 year old boys and giving them gummy bears or a candybar if they stomp around in a vat of roaches.

Cockroach milk healthier than almond milk? Yes, in fact could be among “the most nutritious substances on earth” in c/publichealth@mander.xyz

[–] plantteacher@mander.xyz 5 points 1 month ago

ah yes, that’s it.

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Cockroach milk healthier than almond milk? Yes, in fact could be among “the most nutritious substances on earth” (www.npr.org)

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Woah.. ho.. Gotta love that clickbait title. I’ll cut to the chase though- more research is needed before you can get roach milk on the shelf. From the article:

“But today we have no evidence that it is actually safe for human consumption.”

“Plus roaches aren't the easiest creatures to milk.”

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(US) the unnecessary-IV (swindle?) [update: price corrected to $600] (mander.xyz)

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Hospitals will often give patients an IV as an automatic procedure and then use it for just one blood draw or injection, or even not use it at all. Then charge ≥$~~60~~ 600¹ for it (in the US)!

I went to the ER in Europe and got an automatic IV. They only used it to take blood and nothing else. So I took notes and prepared for a dispute. When the invoice finally came, I found no charge for the IV. But had to probe because I’m the type that will fight over a nickel on principle. I asked for details on some of the doctor’s fees, since it was not itemized separately. After my investigation, it turns out the IV was bundled in but only €6. LOL. So insignificant indeed.

Not sure if it’s fair to call it a swindle in the US. Is it typically a deliberate money-grab when the IV is not really needed? Staff are (generally rightfully) unaware of pricing and just focused on giving the best care for the patient independent of cost. And for insured people that’s ideal. But I often steer the staff, saying I’m an uninsured cash payer and need price quotes and to asses the degree of need on various things. It’s a burden on them but it’s important to me. I have gotten discharged a day early on a couple occasions (which generally saves me ~$/€ 1k each day I avoid).

Funny side story: a doc who I steered well toward budget treatment pulls out his smartphone with a gadget that does an echo. He said this is free but unofficial… maybe we can get out of the pricey proper echo imaging. And indeed the pics were good enough.

Anyway - to the question:

Whether to give an IV involves guesswork on whether more things will need to be injected. Do docs have any criteria to follow when ordering an IV, or is it their full discretion and they just order it for convenience without much thought?

~~$60~~ was the price ~15-20 years ago.. probably even more today. CORRECTION: the ER nurse in my family apparently tells patients who possibly don’t need an IV that the cost on the bill will be $600 (as a good samaritan warning). I don’t have direct contact with this family member.. heard it through someone else. Can any other ER nurses in the US confirm whether that’s accurate? I am really struggling to believe this price and wonder if someone’s memory failed. I think if I were quoted that price I would surely say for that price I do not need it.. feel free to stick me 10-20 times if needed. (update 2: seems realistic)