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[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 85 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Tiktok is very pro-Palestine indeed. Compare that to the fascist shithole that reddit is right now (or always has been), and I'd say the kids are alright.

It's not the algorithm, teens are just pro-Palestine

[–] redditsuckss@lemmy.ca 25 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I believe reddit is infested with astroturfers paid for by governments.

It's just too manufactured and predictable, at this point.

[–] tourist@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's bewildering to go back there and see so much pro Zionist sentiment.

I recall in 2018 when those IDF soldiers were killing civilians and medics during the border protests. The reaction was totally different. Actual empathy for victims of war crimes and disgust for the perpetrators.

Now it seems when there's an equally or even more horrific war crime that happens to Palestinians, the response is always "welp they shouldn't have done october 7th", 178k upvotes, 3152 awards

[–] livus@kbin.social 5 points 8 months ago

I remember a Canadian redditer got shot in the leg by IDF snipers and his colleague who rescued him got killed same day.

At the time his personal account of the events was upvoted and people discussed stuff with him. He was a medic, with a post history about these cool 3D printed field tourniquets. He'd been shot when on duty.

If someone like that posted in Reddit's current iteration I think the response would be far more hostile.

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 8 points 8 months ago

Some seem to have followed the exodus here.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 months ago

believe reddit is infested with astroturfers paid for by governments.

As is tiktok, Facebook, Twitter and pretty much ebmvery other popular platform.

[–] Therealgoodjanet@lemmy.world 49 points 8 months ago (2 children)

After all, President Biden recently said he cannot understand why non-Palestinians are so vested in the Palestinian plight, according to another Democracy Now report.

Can you imagine? People having sympathy for Palestinians being slaughtered?! It’s unbelievable and unforgivable, we like our people to be quiet and uninformed, thank you very much. Next thing you know they get concerned over kids being slaughtered in school shootings. The audacity!

/s

And as a side note; he doesn’t understand why people are sympathetic to the Palestinian plight, but he is ultra sympathetic to Israel. And he doesn’t even see the irony in that…

[–] hackerwacker@lemmy.ml 19 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Well he's right, nobody cared about Iraqis, Afgans, Syrians, Libyans, Vietnamese, Cambodians,... we've slaughtered tens of millions with no problems, so what's different now?

[–] AFaithfulNihilist@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago

Some of the largest protests the world and specifically America had ever seen took place during the Iraq and Afghanistan wars drawing incredible numbers of people all across the country to protest. Our government got violent putting down a lot of those protests and The News largely just didn't report it.

It's just harder to hide shit now, but a lot of people seem to discount how much power the TV had over what people thought was going on outside.

[–] Therealgoodjanet@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

We live in a different era now. Where we aren’t as influenced by the media anymore. They can spin stories all their want, but actually seeing the footage come out of Gaza makes it impossible to ignore or deny. The media is losing its grip and that’s what we’re experiencing.

We can no longer be pacified with “it’s not that bad” or “they are the bad guys anyway, all of them” when you see the footage of four guys being blown up, just like that. When you see the videos of parents burying their babies. When you hear the first person stories the media isn’t bringing you.

That’s what’s different.

[–] livus@kbin.social 5 points 8 months ago

What's different now is the ability of ordinary people to communicate with us without being gatekept by Western media.

[–] redditsuckss@lemmy.ca -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Can't vote for biden after this.

In fact, I don't see me ever voting for another establishment candidate after what they did to Bernie.

It's clear both sides are losing options.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's clear both sides are losing options.

Like it or not, one of them will be in power after the election.

And one is clearly much worse for both amreicans and the international community.

You (and peoope like you) abstaining from the vote means that Trump's cultist voters' ballots will have a greater influence on the outcome of the election.

[–] redditsuckss@lemmy.ca -1 points 8 months ago

Not really. You're just a tribalist succumbing to and perpetuating tribalist rhetoric.

I see it all the time and don't expect more from you people at this point.

In fact, every time I see it just reinforces my decisions.

If you want my support, run better candidates. If we end up with Trump, that's the fault of the establishment democrats just like the first time.

No exceptions. Do better.

[–] Maoo@hexbear.net 19 points 8 months ago

Most likely, yes. There's a confluence of NatSec ghoul interests and monopoly tech interests behind floating a TikTok ban. The ghouls want to limit pro-Palesinian content (which TikTok seems to support simply via a less biased algorithm) and tech monopolies that want to retake a position in what is basically Vine with a better algorithm and dance and thirst trap and comedy trends.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's been coming for a lot longer than the few months since Palestine was back on people's minds. No, this is all about China vs. US.

[–] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 1 points 8 months ago

I agree. It is not in any way a main reason. But it is a data point about how the west does not like a social media app that is not within their complete control.

[–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Everyone just wants to ban content they don't like.

How about you all mind your own business, fuck off, and let me watch what I want?

Fascism coming at me from both sides.

[–] BNE@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Thank God, an enlightened centrist! What knowledge can you throw down to us critically engaged peasants from the top of the horseshoe??? We're so hungry as a result of communism or something