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It's really bizarre if you compare the Lemmy comments with those on Reddit worldnews. The Reddit comments are generally pro Israël, some even banaly so (in the 'they had it coming sand the deserve what they get'- territory).
In a forum there should be dissenting opinions, however those are downvoted to oblivion. It feels very weird, I'm reluctant to use the word astroturfing, but there's a huge difference in the time of the discussion compared to a couple of years ago.
Israel has an app where they post links to social media posts discussing Israel for app users to go astroturf. They take their propaganda very seriously. They have a word for propaganda targeting foreigners: "hasbara." https://mepc.org/speeches/hasbara-and-control-narrative-element-strategy
Israeli work contacts flooding LinkedIn with their shit is one of the weirdest ways I see this online. It’s usually inappropriate to bring politics into the work sphere but in the days after the October attack, the business world came out in sympathy for Israel, as they should. The problem is that this was cemented as the only business friendly position from that point forward. Nowadays I see Israelis posting raw vitriol while everyone else is too timid to say anything except “we support Israel’s right to exist” or “we hope for peace in the Middle East” and other such fatuous trivialities.
Why is pro-Israel the only business friendly position? Simple. There aren’t any Palestinian startups. There are very few Palestinian CEOs.
When you don’t have a voice: you are wrong.
r/Worldnews just bans everyone that is pro Palestinian. And it is filled to the brim with obvious Hasbara bots.
Similar to other communities pro isreal communities such as r/Destiny. Every single one of them has banned pro-Palestinian voices.
Worldnews has always been the place where all the bad opinions and misinformed bullshit culminated. I remember threads with hundreds of first level comments all stating basically the same bullshit over and over again with no insight in sight
It is weird. The left leaning Canadian subreddit (r/onguardforthee) is generally pro Palestine but my city's subreddit is generally pro Israel. I've been watching my city's subreddit move right politically quite quickly.
Something I've noticed is that reddit as a whole seems to have gotten a lot more right wing since the whole API stuff. I'm not sure if it's actually because of users leaving, or if moderation took a huge hit and it's kind of snow balling into hateful commenting becoming normal.
I'm convinced the rightward swing is from people leaving. I imagine it's a self-reinforcing feedback loop, too. I wouldn't mind sometimes or even often being the underdog in a thread, as long as occasionally you could score a small win here or there. But when every comment is just going to get down voted to Hades, it becomes pointless.
It also just makes sense that people who are temperamentally conservative are both more likely to be politically conservative and be slower to abandon ship from a dying platform.
Reddit is a powerhouse of online discussion. It’s the perfect place for astroturfing. Not to mention, Reddit is so desperate to become profitable that they’re bragging about “we know everything about our users,” so it’s obvious they’re selling data to data brokers, they’re selling data to google for their AI and google did a cool little quid pro quo with them to boost Reddit results in google search…why not get in bed with opinion brokers?
I wouldn’t be surprised at all. In fact, I assume it.
Reddit has been atroturfed to hell for a long time: https://web.archive.org/web/20160604042751/http://www.redditblog.com/2013/05/get-ready-for-global-reddit-meetup-day.html
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pro Israël how long since you've left reddit ? Because back there in the comments the only thing I saw were :
Being pro Israel is being pro a lot of those things in this day and age.
They're not opposites, look at the rest of the comments on this post.
Reddit is 100% astroturfed by Israel, Ukraine, and Russia.
There is no Palestinian/Iranian astroturfing.
It's no covert secret that Russia benefits from chaos in Israel/Gaza. Russia is 100% amplifying the coverage of the conflict to their benefit.
In a forum there should be dissenting opinions, however those are downvoted to oblivion.
As opposed to what, Lemmy World???? This place is the same just fewer users.
Not really. If you've been on Reddit for more than a decade you really could see a cultural shift. Lemmy feels smaller and more filterable. If you curate your subscriptions and exclude more extreme Instances it's quite all right.
Whenever I read Reddit outside of my niche subs it just feels almost distopian, is become a very weird place.
When I left reddit, I was subbed to like 30-50 subs, I only went on r/aspiememes despite most of my subs being about geopolitics and history because wherever I went there always were dude promoting genocide while all pretending to be from different side of the political spectrum
wherever I went there always were dude promoting genocide while all pretending to be from different side of the political spectrum
We are seeing that happen on Lemmy all 2024 so far.
please people on Lemmy are less insane than reddit. On reddit the top com would be an islamist guy upholding a KKK antisemitic conspiracies
please people on Lemmy are less insane than reddit
Laughable. Reddit actually bans the insane fringes, then they come here.
Yeah. I believe in the fediverse and really want to see it crush corporate social media, but I don't even tell people I use it while there's so much authoritarian propaganda on here.
The fact that some of the most prominent communities are on the garbage instance lemmy.ml is just wild.
Meanwhile, civilians in Gaza endure a deepening humanitarian catastrophe. Law and order has broken down across the coastal enclave as Hamas’s civil control over northern Gaza and large swathes of the south has been ended.
I don't think the problem is Hamas failing to provide "law and order" but Israel's ongoing genocide that is causing the "deepening humanitarian catastrophe".
is that analysis based on the fact that Gaza now looks like a Metro 2033 area ?
That was kinda obvious since the beginning.
I'd say it's kinda obvious since about 80 years. The whole region is messed up.