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[–] BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 51 points 8 months ago (1 children)

14 billions for Israel, 100 millions for Palestine... That's a 140 ratio. Who's the distressed population Joe?

[–] medgremlin@midwest.social 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Bullets are a lot more expensive than bandages most of the time.

(Edit: that is not to say that this is a reasonable allocation of resources in this situation. The appropriate ratio would be zero bullets and a couple dozen new, fully equipped hospitals and several hundred well-stocked kitchens.)

[–] CityPop@lemmy.today 43 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Aw, I have three weapons for Israel and no UN aid. Why can't I have no weapons for Israel and three UN aid?

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[–] bamboo@lemm.ee 32 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Biden is gonna get slaughtered in November. It might even be the final nail in the coffin for American democracy. All because Joe here couldn’t not enthusiastically fund a genocide occurring in plain sight.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago (10 children)

All because Joe here couldn’t not enthusiastically fund a genocide occurring in plain sight.

Absolving Republicans of all their nasty anti-democratic behavior is disgusting. Anyone voting for Trump is actively pursuing the downfall of America. Anyone who doesn't vote at all deserves the blame too.

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I haven’t seen a single leftist say they’re going to vote for Trump but I’ve seen like 100,000 liberals saying enabling genocide isn’t a big issue and to vote blue no matter who. Maybe stop nagging leftists and start doing the bare fucking minimum to appeal to voters who don’t like actual fucking genocide.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Genocide is a big deal but what the fuck is not voting going to do to fix it? If anything, trump will give Israel more shit and also dismantle US democracy whole he's at it

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago (3 children)

No one on the left is voting for Trump! We all know what happens to leftists under fascism. Read the “First they came…” poem. We’re fucking first.

I am saying to stop nagging leftists and start focusing on suburban moms or whomever. Leftists upset about mass slaughter are never why Democrats lose. It’s people upset about grocery bills and shit like that.

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

There’s not a single literate leftist who doesn’t understand that centrists will ultimately sell us out to make a deal with the devil that is fascism. That’s how it’s gone in every country where fascism took hold. It’s part of the process and we know we’ll have to be the resistance.

No one even expect centrists to do the right thing when push comes to shove. But quit nagging leftists on the way. We’re really not the problem in this situation.

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Nobody is absolving the Republicans of being evil little shits. We just aren't going to stand for Biden following them down that road.

[–] harderian729@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Careful, any criticism of biden automatically makes you a trump supporter.

That's how tribalism works.

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[–] harderian729@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I'd say anyone who supports Trump or Biden is actively pursuing the downfall of America.

They're both just looking out for different rich people.

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[–] harderian729@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yeah. It's painfully obvious when the US' ruling class clashes with its servant class.

They just keep pushing and expect us to roll over and take it. Unfortunately, a lot of us are proud to do just that. I don't take those people seriously, anymore.

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[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 32 points 8 months ago (5 children)

If he doesn't win election, I want his stans to remember this and understand that he threw it. He, or at least his staff, must know what a historically unpopular policy this is.

The dems clearly aren't as excited about beating Trump as their voters are.

[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 20 points 8 months ago (4 children)

They’ll just blame the voters, like they already do.

The Dems have invested everything into Biden so they can’t change their ship, and the stans can’t admit there is any flaws, so it must be everyone else that is wrong.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I don't know where you guys see it, but I never see any stans for Biden who can't admit his flaws like we see with Trump supporters. The only support I see for Biden is for the general election, not for him or his policies overall. I only see people being critical of Biden but saying we need to vote for him anyway. As bad as it is, there is no Palestine with Trump, there's possibly no democracy with Trump, there's only likely a lot of suffering for the regular people with Trump.

[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (13 children)

I see it everywhere. I’d name drop but can’t “attack the user” in this community or whatever the rule is.

It’s almost at maga levels with these people. Any criticism of Biden is met with “Why do you want Trump to win”, “Bidens policies have been so good but no one knows about them”, or “The president can’t just do things”. I always see zero willingness to admit his huge flaws and only deflection.

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

I've seen it all over the place. Usually in the form of the narcissist's prayer too.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Well, trump was the best thing to happen to democratic fundraising ever. So. They have an incentive to see him win.

[–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Media ratings too. Every single outlet that plays on TV would love a Trump victory because it makes people pay attention who would otherwise not watch any news.

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[–] TheUncannyObserver@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

If the dems lose this, and they probably will, they’ll pull out their usual playbook and blame everyone but themselves.

[–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Dems lose, blame voters, move rightward, repeat. At some point they themselves will be fascists and their supporters will urge everyone to vote for the 'softer' fascist. They see no issue in continuing this cycle and pledging their votes with no conditions or red lines, exactly like how Biden funds Israel. Why expect them to do what you want if youve signaled you'll never leave their side?

[–] harderian729@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

If only we voted for a party that didn't abuse us like this.

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[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 30 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Genocide…. What a legacy

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I rather liked his administration before he became Genocide Joe.

[–] juicy@lemmy.today 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, he was quite a bit better than Obama before this, in my opinion. I was pleasantly surprised.

[–] CptCarp@startrek.website 5 points 8 months ago

Better than Dronebma isn't much of a high bar.

[–] APassenger@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Same. This has harshed things by more than a little.

That said, he's getting my vote because my kids deserve democracy.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This is after it turned out that Israel's accusation was a lie, as is usually the case. This man will go down in November and drag the rest of the world with him.

[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee 18 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Too many pro Israel people in Bidens government.

[–] CptCarp@startrek.website 10 points 8 months ago

Such as Biden himself.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's the American government, period. Jewish people contribute millions in lobbies and bribes.

[–] GiveMemes@jlai.lu 13 points 8 months ago

Careful there. Lots of American Jews don't support Israel's actions. Zionists do, whether they're Jewish or not.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Right after the UNRWA accusations turn out to be false.

And israel tortured UNRWA employees into making false confessions.

Fuck Biden.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Biden ignoring his own intelligence agencies for foreign propaganda.

Yay.

I thought that was just a trump thing. But nope.

[–] SeabassDan@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (3 children)

It's a US politics thing. Everyone that sets foot in the White House has to play ball, they just don't know it until they get there. It would've been interesting to see Bernie react to the reality of things in the highest office, but that's probably exactly why they never let him in.

[–] 00x0xx@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Bernie is the only US politician that actually fights for the common man. And the only reason I think he's still a politician is because he's got the support of enough people behind him that America's oligarchy can't stop him from at least holding some official positions of power and decision making. But I don't ever see him being president of this nation, and at his age, it's likely too late now.

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[–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

Bidens new memoir "How to lose votes and alienate muslims" coming to a store near you soon.

[–] harderian729@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Why are we giving $14b to one of the wealthiest nations in existence?

I'm never voting for an establishment democrat again. I don't care what the tribalists think. They don't want to solve these problems, just perpetuate them.

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