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Could child labor ever be acceptable if it's done consentually? (monyet.cc)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by DragonWasabi@monyet.cc to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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While child labor is viewed negatively, apparently child labor and child slavery aren't the same thing, and child labor though it could still be exploitative/cruel in other ways, can be done voluntarily by the child, and with fair treatment/compensation/etc.

I suppose you could make the argument that any child labor opens itself up to problems, but could it be done responsibly? And if not, then at what age do we draw the line of labor being not ok regardless of consent?

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[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nope. Children are not able to provide informed consent and thus cannot enter into contracts to sell their labor. Beyond that, there is a wealth of data demonstrating negative outcomes related to child labor, including educational underperformance, increased incidence of poverty, abuse, and crime, as well as the potential of workplace injuries to cause permanent developmental impairment.

There is no such thing as ethical child labor.

[–] danhakimi@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

Well, let me play devil's advocate.

You don't need a two-way binding contract to form a labor relationship. You could have a relationship where an employer offers a child some terms, and the child can work whenever they want, leave whenever they want, and get paid for the time they work, or for their output, or something.
Does the labor cause the poverty, abuse, and crime? I'd imagine that the poverty causes the labor, and the poverty also causes the crime. Abuse might also cause the labor, as parents could force their kids to work, but you could create systems at certified child employers to interview Children and see how their home lives are going. The children might also be using work as an escape—either a temporary one, or a way to save up money to move out as soon as possible.
Generally, when people talk about the age of meaningful consent, there's a clear line at or near the age of majority. Where's the line where you can meaningfully consent to labor? Does it depend on the job? Sure, five year olds shouldn't be allowed to work at all, but what about a fourteen year old who really wants to be a camp counselor during the summer? I worked at a park when I was 16, I mostly sat around all day. I read three books (the ones I had to read for school and one more), I went for a walk every day, I got fresh air, I talked to people. Surely we can agree that that was fine.
We should definitely talk about the types of job. No kid should be a factory worker or an accountant or a dentist. But working in a park, being a camp counselor, babysitting... There are many traditional jobs that apply to children with no risk of physical injury, jobs that don't conflict with schoolwork, etc. Do those studies address each form of labor?