She had asthma and wasnt using her inhaler. Kids shouldn't be vaping, but there was more going on here.
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I had to check to see this was an onion article. There has to be so much more going on here.
Man, this destroys my argument that all 12 year olds should vape. Boy do I feel silly.
Fortunately the 13 year olds are good to vape
"Sarah's asthma and the fact she was not good at using her preventative inhaler left her at risk of complications."
Ahh, there's the problem
I think the main problem was she was just buying them from a store for 3 years.
This is awful and I'm very sorry for the kid but with the greatest respect who gives a fuck what this 12 year old thinks
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Yeah fuck allowing children to vape but this is clearly a case of poor compliance asthma management and shit parents. Obviously some larger governmental intervention will help but the story is garbage.
Note: you can potentially ignore everything I said because I only read two paragraphs of the article and just looked at the photos of the shitty mom and kid
What a clickbaity bs article.
Y'all really like your vapes, huh? Jesus fucking Christ with so many of these comments... I smoke, too, but I don't defend tobacco.
Dude I see your username in every comment section of every post I click on. Over 4.5k comments in 3 months! That's impressive
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So seriously - who's peddling this anti-vaping propaganda and what's their goal?
Vaping is easily the most effective way to stop smoking that's ever existed. Certainly we don't want kids to start doing it, and kids are the basis for much of the propaganda, but it's never just restricted to trying to make it so kids don't start. All of the propaganda efforts are directed toward stamping out vaping entirely, and that means that millions of people whose lives could literally be saved by switching from smoking to vaping will be denied that opportunity.
Why? Whose interests are served by denying adult smokers access to the most effective smoking cessation product ever?
So seriously - who's peddling this anti-vaping propaganda and what's their goal?
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Vaping is easily the most effective way to stop smoking that's ever existed.
Care to make a wild guess who's behind the propaganda?
The entire history of banning shit like cigarette advertising and flavors is regulatory capture.
Awful lot of common people in support of this shit, though.
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I tried everything under the sun to quit smoking. It wasn't until I got myself a rig and stepped the nicotine down to zero until I was able to stop. I have remained smoke free for going on 8 years.
Nicely done! Similar route for myself. I did get more addicted to my vape at first, just out of sheer convenience/not having to go outside. Realized it though and took steps to be 8 months vape free.
Do you ever crave it anymore? I smelled someone's cigarette the other day and instantly wanted one.. when I was vaping, cigs smelled awful. monkey brains are weird.
I've been vaping for 8 years after smoking for 6 years and the smell of cigarettes are gross to me. But when I see someone in a tv show or movie smoking that tends to make me crave a smoke. Weird how the brain works lol.
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Who's trying to stamp out vaping entirely? All I'm reading into this article is just "Kids shouldn't start vaping, especially if they have asthma."
The suggested solutions I've seen in the news recently are things like keep the vaping displays away from kids, stop kid-friendly flavours, and make packaging less enticing - all things that they currently do for cigarettes, and all perfectly reasonable IMO.
No-one I've seen is proposing taking them away from adults.
Fuck this stop kid friendly flavor shit. I'm 40. I prefer sour flavors like apple/peach or red bull. I swear to fuck I will start smoking again to spite you paternalistic motherfuckers.
Christ, chill with the venom. Fair enough, you like those flavours, but there are ways to avoid marketing them as desirable to children.
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"kid friendly flavors" tend to be literally everything except for "chemical tobacco flavor" and menthol. And sometimes they go after the menthol too. They're trying to kill the whole thing.
Adults also like the “kid friendly” flavors. Restricting people to vape flavors that taste like ass isn’t going to help them stop smoking cigarettes that are more harmful to themselves and those around them
If you smoke, you should be allowed to vape in an attempt to quit. But if you never smoked, fuck vaping. It's too new to be thoroughly studied for health effects.
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If I had to guess? Tobacco companies.
Well tbf vaping is also a highly effective gateway to hook the youth.
I liked that proposal to raise the minimum age every year that was proposed in the UK. Let people quit or smoke until they die but don't let people start smoking
I think that became an actual law in Australia.
Edit: it was NZ, my bad!
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I think people should be able to dope their systems with whatever they want.
Exactly. Banning tobacco outright isn't going to stop smoking, it'll just create a black market. And we know how effective that has been for 'real' drugs. Smoking has been naturally declining in popularity anyway, so it really just feels like Tory posturing.
Where I live I rarely see people against vaping for anti smoking usage. Mostly people I meet are against the recreational use.
Media talking about vapes is like: "Olympic athlete who vapes died of a hole in the lung from which he bled out of, raising awareness to the practice of vaping in society."
Article: "The Olympic athlete was shot during a home robbery. It's totally unrelated LOL."
I vape, it’s how I quit smoking. I’d prefer to smoke, but it is the lesser of two evils, and I would encourage anyone who smokes cigarettes to switch. I recently went on holiday, smashed my vape and couldn’t find a replacement. I ended up buying the disposable kind from a supermarket for the first time and I was honestly shocked at how wasteful the are - so much unnecessary plastic that goes straight into the bin. But I was more shocked by how clearly geared towards children the disposable kind are - the bright colours, the flashy lights, the super sweet flavours, the high nicotine content. The one I bought was called YOLO ffs.
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The proposals include:
- restricting the flavours and descriptions of vapes so they are no longer targeted at children
- keeping vapes out of sight of children in shops
- regulating vape packaging so they are not targeted at children
- exploring whether increasing the price of vapes will reduce the number of young people using them
- considering restricting the sale of disposable vapes, which ministers say are clearly linked to the rise in vaping in children and are incredibly harmful to the environment.
So not really very much, it's hardly worth storming the Bastille over.
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