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[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 369 points 8 months ago (15 children)

I'm sure it's nothing and everything is fine. Now, who wants to buy some of this Reddit stock? I'll cut you a special deal so you don't miss out! ... Anyone?

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 164 points 8 months ago (9 children)

I was interested in buying a share just to be in for the ride, but then they asked for my real name to be associated with my handle. It's like they never understood what reddit was about at all.

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[–] Neon@lemmy.world 58 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I got a Message offering me to buy too. In the Message it says i need to be a permanent Resident of the US.

Buddy, you had me enter my Country when i created the Account. You know full-well I'm from the EU. Why not just sort me out of the Mailing-list?

[–] Ottomateeverything@lemmy.world 71 points 8 months ago

Why not just sort me out of the Mailing-list?

Because that would cost their time instead of yours

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[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 35 points 8 months ago

"We have never made a profit and may never make a profit. Please buy our stock."

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[–] STUPIDVIPGUY@lemmy.world 281 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (11 children)

Reddit isn't dead. There's plenty of posts and traffic, way more than here. The problem is that that quality has plummeted. Bots posting divisive political shit, bad memes, and toxic commenters. Angry people spurred on by bots and no valuable discussion

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 82 points 8 months ago (3 children)

As anything with Reddit, it depends on what you subscribe.

It's perfectly possible that this person sees the site completely dead. Personally, every time I go there it's full of interesting comics raised by some bots that keep reposting old things, and really really bad comments, but still plentiful.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 77 points 8 months ago (6 children)

They made some algorithm changes a bunch of years ago (2015?), and migrated away from the concept of "default subs". The front page drew from every sub with an algorithm.

TheDonald was very good at understanding and abusing that algorithm, resulting in it overrunning the front page for everyone. They had to tweak it a bunch as a result.

IMO, this resulted in a great homogenization of communities. People participate in communities without really understanding the communities. Why should they? The "community" is just "the Reddit front page".

As soon as any community gets popular enough to hit the front page, it becomes hive-minded, predictable, and bland.

Lemmy actually has this same structural problem... Evidenced by the fact that as I write this comment, I actually have no clue what community this post is in.

I think Lemmy just hasn't been overrun w/ bots (yet), isn't being as heavily invested in by bad faith foreign state actors (yet), and is mostly composed of people who moved from Reddit who want to actively participate in a way to keep it from having that same Reddit "flavour".

Just my take.

[–] RampageDon@lemmy.world 36 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Omg a little anecdote to add on to your point. I made a post on a news article about how people blindly follow name brands. It was only after a few blindly ehh and some other comments along those lines I realized I was on a blind community thread. Real foot in mouth moment lol. It was taken well enough when I explained my mistake and apologized. Got some good info too about the community.

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[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 43 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I just went there, I also noticed that most of the posts on top of r/all are sub 10K upvotes, most sub 5K. However, when I sorted by Top/Today then I saw there were a lot of posts that were over 30K upvotes. Maybe it's change in algorithm and how they show posts.

BUT, i went to Top All Time, and all of the posts there were at the earliest from 3 years ago, a lot from 5-7years ago too so it rules out the pandemic effect. Looks like reddit may have indeed passed its prime.

Edit: actually it's weirder, i can't access Top This Year. It looks like they scrubbed all the top posts from 2 years ago, so I might be wrong about the activity. But that is still Hella sus.

Yup, top posts last 2 years definitely scrubbed or just excluded from top all time display. Probably to hide all of the protest posts from last year.

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[–] TheSlad@sh.itjust.works 27 points 8 months ago (2 children)

You forgot about the automated dms and emails begging users to buy stock at their IPO to inflate it's value

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[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 146 points 8 months ago (8 children)

Yes, everything that could possibly be posted and discussed has been done. Humanity has officially run it's course, that is the only explanation for a reduction in the amount of content on Reddit.

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[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 124 points 8 months ago (17 children)

I like how the user claims 2016-2019 as good years. From what I remember, the 2016 election was when reddit started turning to trash with the political astroturfing and right wing trolls making bad faith arguments. When was the crazy with the totally-not-staged crazy doorbell camera videos?

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 39 points 8 months ago (4 children)

2016'ish was when the The_Donald started its come up, which absolutely was a negative for the site. 2015 had FatPeopleHate, Even in 2011 they had the jailbait subreddit.

So saying it was ever particularly good is kind of... lmao

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[–] Hobo@lemmy.world 36 points 8 months ago

Dear lord 2015/2016 was like the sharp decline after a long slope downward in my opinion. Might be showing my age but peak reddit to me was prior to reddit gold and vote fuzzing.

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[–] praxis_jack@lemmy.world 85 points 8 months ago

We did it guys. We've posted everything there is to post and now we can finally rest.

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 78 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Dead? Maybe not. Dead inside? Definitely.

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[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 69 points 8 months ago (7 children)

Here's a theory....

After the API implosion, so many active and posting users quit that the gap was filled with mainly bots.

Whether intentional or not, this gave the impression that Reddit was still active on paper.... The numbers said there was no significant change after the exedous.

When the Reddit admins figured out that a large portion of the site is now bots, they decided to chase the money before the site tanked completely.

This led to Reddit trying to cash in on the remaining users with more ads than ever, cash in on their advertisers, and cash in on the platforms (until recent) good image. Most people have at least heard of Reddit at this point, so going for an IPO now, when almost everyone knows that it exists, and only regular Reddit users are really aware of the enshittification happening. So they can demand a high price for the IPO, and collect a bunch of money before the enshittification is more well known, and the company tanks.

IDK, but that seems to be the way of things.

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[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.world 69 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Who would have thought that driving away the power users that posted and interacted with the content the most would ruin Reddit ? 🙄

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[–] sleepmode@lemmy.world 61 points 8 months ago

Smaller subreddits usually supported by a few power users are dying off. I remember it taking me a couple hours to read through the top posts at end of day. Now you’re lucky to see a week’s worth of genuine top posts.

Posts getting roasted in the comments for being too boomery, capitalist bootlicking or hive-mindish happens less and less.

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 51 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I did notice Lemmy has s lot more comments and votes recently

[–] Custoslibera@lemmy.world 38 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Lemmy really has increased in traffic over the time I’ve been here.

For all intents and purposes it’s the exact same experience as the other place for me.

[–] 5in1k@lemm.ee 27 points 8 months ago (15 children)

I see less repeated jokes as top level comments here.

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[–] PutangInaMo@lemmy.world 51 points 8 months ago (9 children)

Reddit changed their upvote algorithm which is why it looks so much lower than it really is.

They covered this years ago..

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 43 points 8 months ago (4 children)

They changed to to massively inflate the displayed vote totals though. Old reddit was showing actual vote totals with some fuzzing. The algorithm change in 2016 or whatever was to reflect engagement and engagement velocity in the displayed post scores, which is how we got the huge 100k+ top posts. If they have changed away from that I haven't seen anything about it.

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[–] kratoz29@lemm.ee 49 points 8 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 48 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

After last June, I ended up muting more and more and more weird niche subs Reddit kept trying to push in "hot" because all the actually hot Reddits were doing the whole blackout thing.

Then some small subs got rather large quite quickly due to void left by the mass exodus, and that went to the heads of the mods of those small subs.

Reddit after June -23 is hot garbage.

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[–] Crass_Spektakel@lemmy.world 44 points 8 months ago (6 children)

In 2021 I wrote a story "The Typo which saved humanity" on Reddit and it exploded to 3000 upvotes in less than a day. A couple of years later I wrote a story "Day of the Fat Man" which got 50 upvotes. Everybody I ask considered the second one the better one.

Then I reposted those stories on Youtube and Facebook and both got around the same upvotes, around 5k+ on each.

Yes, Reddit has become quite dead.

But to be honest, my stories on Lemmy got like 50 upvotes so... meh.

[–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 27 points 8 months ago (3 children)

50 real people is still better than botted updoots.

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[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 44 points 8 months ago

Reddit became openly hostile to the people and content that made it great. It’s not exactly surprising that the good users eventually went elsewhere. You could really tell shit went downhill after they killed the third party apps.

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.world 44 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I only use Reddit now for a couple of very niche forums (like /samsungwatchfaces) but I never post there anymore.

[–] Bronzie@sh.itjust.works 43 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Yeah same.
I only use it to follow r/ukraine, and I don't comment or vote.

Lemmy is not perfect but it scratches my itch to see what random strangers think about random topics so I don't really miss it.

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[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 41 points 8 months ago (10 children)

Don't underestimate the power of user experience shaping.

The front page is how most interact with the site, and helped it grow. The front page algorithm is bastardized to hell and back now, and unless you're on old.reddit, you cant sort by Hot by default.

Reddit is strangling itself to death with how fiercely it's trying to corral users in various directions. Every HeGetsUs post they force users to look at shoves good content one rank down.

This has an effect on the site overall.

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[–] lorty@lemmy.ml 40 points 8 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 37 points 8 months ago (6 children)

Time to bring the people into Lemmy so the communities seem more alive. Sublemmy?

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[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 36 points 8 months ago (9 children)

had a vibrant sub with @ 50,000 participants, new content every day. now it's literally full of spam, no engagement, and the 'mod' appears to have fled after taking Spez's offer to take over.

so that's satisfying :D

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[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.world 32 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Considering im one of the top 35,000 most active users on reddit yet havent used the site since July last year, I cant see why

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Maybe because all the power users left lol

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 27 points 8 months ago (2 children)

got the link? OP's account is (suspiciously?) deleted

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 46 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

I just assumed that everyone with a username of word-word-number there was a bot or sockpuppet.

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 32 points 8 months ago (3 children)

It's also people who create throwaways. Reddit gives a randomized username following that format.

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[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 28 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I found this screenshot elsewhere, where people were sharing stuff about reddit feeling worse and worse.

Just did some googling and found the original post for this one, and it looks like it's from August or September, so not that long after a significant chunk of users gave up on the site.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheoryOfReddit/comments/15itv7e/has_anyone_noticed_that_reddit_is_a_bit_dead/

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[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago

Nope, OOP guessed it in one. Everything there is to post has already been posted. Close it down, guys, there's nothing left to post. Internet's done.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 25 points 8 months ago

Reddit doesn't allow bots to vote.

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