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While the Demographia report found Gaza City isn’t as packed as the world’s most dense cities, including Dhaka, Bangladesh, which has over 80,000 people per square mile, it’s more crowded than global cities, such as London, and three times more dense than Los Angeles, the most population-dense area in the US, according to the report.
They’re telling 1.1 Million people to move in 24hours in an area more dense than LA or London. In an area without power, fuel, or food.
They know it can't be done and they don't care. The rhetoric coming out of their government is pure genocide talk. One of the military guys got furious that anyone cared about Palestinian civilians.
I hope the US doesn't support this or stay silent. We need to have the balls to stand up to allies when they're in the wrong. The world said "not again" to the holocaust and now regularly looks the other way, and it's time countries stop letting this shit happen.
You know the US won’t. The gov’t is too far up it’s own ass and only sees numbers. Israel is profitable to us, and money is the only thing anyone in power gives a shit about. They don’t care that we’re dealing with terrorists, as long as the terrorists make them money.
Hurricane evaculations over days are a mess even with power, fuel, and food...
I just want to remind everyone that the only reason you’re not a civilian in gaza right now shitting yourself over the consequences of the actions of violent group who hasn’t held elections since 2006 is just pure birth lottery. Keep that in mind before you say something stupid.
Time for a genocide. And no one's going to stop them. Fucking hell.
Some of my friends have suggested that there might not be a Gaza to fight for independence for in a few years. I didn't believe them, but now it definitely looks more possible...
Someone needs to stop these vile fucks. Israel is going to kill millions if left unopposed.
It's insane how with all holocaust talk Israeli have no issues applying the same tactics. Cognative dissonance, religion and nationalism just triumphs over logic huh.
Yup. Who gives a fuck about lives when one side’s imaginary friend says the other’s imaginary friend is wrong
Literally people killing each other over fairy tales.
Oh, and because Israel stole their land.
Disgusting. These people had nothing to do with the attack. The actions of a few do not justify the wholesale slaughter of a nation.
Imagine if some proud boys from the US were attacking Canadian civilians, after Canada has been occasionally striking the US and being quite excessive in its use of force.
Then one day Mexico warns Canada that the proud boys might strike this location this week, so Canada pulls its security and guards, the proud boys attack, Canada loudly yells to everyone in the world "OH NO CANADA IS ATTACKING ME DO YOU GUYS SEE THIS SHIT?"
And then Canada proceeds to bomb the absolute fuck out of EVERY city within 10 miles of the border. And then the refugees that are leaving the cities. And then telling them "hey we promise we won't bomb you if you go this route" and then bomb that route. And sends troops into refugee camps in order to decide who is suddenly a proud boy...
The world, as usual when it comes to Israel though, completely loses its minds.
It's like everyone is so afraid of being seen as a nazi, they won't aim even the tiniest criticism toward a government/military. It strikes me as profoundly racist to conflate every Jewish person with the government of Israel, or that somehow Israel represents all jews. Imagine if I suggested Kenya speaks for all black people...
Friendly reminder that Israel doesn't really mind bombing "safe routes"
Last 3 times they told people to move they bombed the destination. I'd stay put
Almost like they're concentrating them in some sort of encampment
It's almost like they've created some type of giant penal colony or ghetto. Keeping people imprisoned in large quantities because of their ethnicity, now I see why America supports Israel. They should get them to do shitty jobs for pennies on the dollar while their in there. Remember it's not slavery if it's inside of a prison.
What would be the point of this from a non fucked up standpoint? It's not like that would help them get the fuckers who did this. All I can see is that they want to destroy everything if Palestinians somehow could completely comply. The fact that they can't just means Israel wants to kill a bunch of people who are unable to get out.
Israel warned them though. So it's totally fine if they commit genocide.
The cynic in me says that Israel will now say that anyone left is a legit target/Hamas supporter, even though it's completely infeasible for most of the population to get out in time.
Then after a huge number of deaths, once they control northern Gasa, they will say (because of continuing Hamas attacks) that it's not safe to return. (But mysteriously is for Israeli settlers)
This only makes the Palestinians less likely to leave ....
It's going to be a bloodbath. Hopefully afterwards it will have been enough for some kind of pro-peace faction to become popular on both sides.... Not holding my breath though.
If this does go bad (worse) I hope that the international community condems both sides, they need to be encouraged (if not forced) to find a peacefull solution.
The far right in Israel, the ones in control, are the most ironic fascists. Bibi has been intent on slaughtering Palestinians for so long, this is all lip service before the mass murder portion of the genocide.
The conspiracy theorist in me still struggles to believe that Hamas (and maybe/probably Iran) wasn't sniffed out by the Mossad or the IDF. These are two groups considered some of the best in the world at what they do and they've been hawking on Hamas for literally longer than most Palestinians have been alive. I absolutely would believe the Israeli far right would martyr a thousand people to get their 2 million.
When you treat an entire nation like livestock and then get surprised they are hating you.
Important note to those unfamiliar with the geography when reading this: the part of the Gaza Strip they want evacuated includes the entirety of Gaza City, the most populated city of the Gaza Strip. They are ordering the migration of 1.1 million people into smaller towns and cities to the south, to empty Gaza City. In 24 hours. This would be disastrous even if it was possible. But there are countless factors making it not possible for people to just pick up and leave, much less in 24 hours, including that the primary hospital of the entire Gaza Strip is in the evacuation area, and is full of injured victims of the bombings the IDF has already undertaken. They have also bombed the caravan on primary roadway people are taking out of the city, according to several news sources
I'll try to stick to facts and not mix my opinions in:
Now for my personal speculation:
White phosphorus grenades were used by the US in Vietnam to destroy Viet Cong tunnel complexes as they would burn up all oxygen and suffocate the enemy soldiers sheltering inside.
Oh I don't like this, I really, really don't like this. This is giving terrifying vibes
I'm afraid there's gonna be a genocide in Gaza
Merely more genocide
Yes, don't let people forget that this has been an on going genocide in Gaza and this is just Benjamin "needs a tiny moustache" Netanyahu "starting up the ovens" if you wanna get dark with it.
They are going to try and push them into Egypt and take it all.
Netanyahoo is a nationalist fuck, so that's probably what his plan was if it's true he and his military intelligence ignored the planned attack.
This all increasingly makes that horrible Hamas attack kinda look like a false flag event
Maybe not false flag but I absolutely believe they let it happen on purpose. Netanyahu and Co have been setting this up for years after creating hamas and making sure they were the only governing body that could exist there.
This is the final step to their plan to "solve" the Gaza strip problem. A sort of.. final solution I guess?
This just seems unlikely to me. But I do believe the Iranians funded and assisted with the planning of the attack.
I get the feeling that Hamas was maybe even a little surprised by how successful the attack was. Which has brought about a reprisal even they didn’t see coming.
I wish there was a way for normal Israelis to get the same treatment as Gazans so that they have finally seen what is the real root cause of the problem.
The media is extremely opionated and show predominantly the human side of the Israelis and there are almost no stories about the horror in Gaza. That's not exactly independent media.
So uh... When is the U.S. and Europe going to withdraw support for Israel? I mean, genocide doesn't seem very in vogue nowadays, you know...
I mean, genocide doesn’t seem very in vogue nowadays
It kind of is though?
In the last 3 years I've counted about 6 different conflicts that look like genocides or incipient genocide attempts to me (based on Raphael Lemkin's original definition of the term).
where the fuck should they go
To make one of the most densely populated areas in the world even more densely populated.