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[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's not a good sign for Ukraine in what is an attrition war. Even their own military is making plans to smuggle their men out if the country because they don't want to send them to the death trap that is the heavily reinforced WW1 like frontlines. And Zelensky's response is just to fire and try replace the people doing that, instead of looking as to why that is happening. If the counter offensive tactics are so dire that your own military is doing corruption to avoid sending men to the front, maybe that needs reassessment.

Zelenskiy said a state investigation into centres across Ukraine had exposed abuses by officials ranging from illegal enrichment to transporting draft-eligible men across the border despite a wartime ban on them leaving the country.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think you're necessarily wrong, and I'm certainly no expert. However, I do know that Ukraine has long struggled with corruption, and has been making slow progress over the past couple of decades. And they will always have (there are always, in any conflict) a certain level of partisanship in their own ranks.

I've been mildly concerned about what could happen after the invasion; assuming Ukraine is successful, Zelenskyy's popularity could make it easy for him to transition into a dictatorship. However, so far I've seen little to indicate that he's anything other than a sincere, effective, and passionate leader -- I like the guy, and I'm inclined to trust his judgement. He's done unexpectedly well so far, and Ukraine under his leadership has been acting up to the highest ethical ideals of the EU.

Maybe Ukraine leadership is making a mistake, but maybe they know something us armchair Generals don't.

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I knew from reading the headline that Hexbear's horde of mouthbreathers would show up to brigade and spread their propaganda. Sure enough, here we are

Edit: You guys really are just proving my point lmao

[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

federation isn't brigading. a post shows up in our feeds, we click on it and comment because helping people dodge the draft is cool and good. We're one of the largest instances, and the consensus we have on issues like "conscription is bad" should not be taken as coordination on the part of hexbear users. If we did deliberately coordinate we'd all link you clowns to the thread where we did it because it would be funny.

[–] tellah@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No but it's weird that I never see any comments supporting Ukraine from hexbear users. Like the country was invaded, there is evidence of massive human rights atrocities. It is beyond the pale that so many people would just coincidentally celebrate every piece of bad news for the people being invaded and spin everything negatively against them. One would expect some diversity of opinions from any reasonably large instance but hexbear users all act like pro-russian trolls.

[–] Krause@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 1 year ago

it’s weird that I never see any comments supporting Ukraine from hexbear users

Over on Hexbear and Lemmygrad we don't take kindly to neo-nazis stalin heart hands sorry but that's just how it is

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hexbear's horde of mouthbreathers

Main Character Syndrome is symptomatic of lib-brain. SAD! trump-drenched

[–] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Never heard of hexbear but why does an instance that claims to be leftist use Trump memes and back Russia?

[–] TomBombadil@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trump is funny. Obviously. Terrible but hilarious. We don't back Russia we just understand NATO to generally be far more destructive and deadly. That's just old Tom Bombadilaros thoughts.

[–] Revanee@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's so dumb... To consider a defensive alliance more destructive and deadly that a corrupt state waging a war of expansion

[–] Krause@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

defensive alliance

NATO is defensive? lol, lmao

a corrupt state

That's Ukraine, it used to be considered the most corrupt place in Europe by the Western media right until February 2022

waging a war of expansion

That's also Ukraine since they're trying to take territory from the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics after they declared independence following the coup against Viktor Yanukovych in 2014

[–] Murvel@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago

I've been interacting with them recently to see what they are all about and lmao I don't think I've ever had a dumber discussion in my life. Truly they are uniquely stupid.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

imagine being a grown ass adult and taking the time to write this comment

[–] Krause@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Propaganda is when you say the same thing Reuters, CNN, WSJ, etc are all saying about draft corruption in Ukraine lol

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sort of. But so is letting your country be taken over by orcs. Choose your poison.

[–] Riffraffintheroom@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There’s something very telling about liberals using terms and concepts from actual fantasy settings to describe their understanding of war.

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Dude, you know very little about me as I do you. So let’s not presume I know nothing of war.

[–] duderium@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Why aren’t you fighting on the front lines in Ukraine? It’s just like LOTR/Harry Potter so you should have no problem opposing the forces of evil, seeing as how you are the main character of existence.

[–] Riffraffintheroom@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah I know so many vets who come back from Afghanistan like "Wow those Kandahar warlords are real Voldemorts!"

[–] duderium@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Least racist liberal