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Youtube let the other shoe drop in their end-stage enshittification this week. Last month, they required you to turn on Youtube History to view the feed of youtube videos recommendations. That seems reasonable, so I did it. But I delete my history every 1 week instead of every 3 months. So they don't get much from my choices. It still did a pretty good job of showing me stuff I was interested in watching.

Then on Oct 1, they threw up a "You're using an Ad Blocker" overlay on videos. I'd use my trusty Overlay Remover plugin to remove the annoying javascript graphic and watch what I wanted. I didn't have to click the X to dismiss the obnoxious page.

Last week, they started placing a timer with the X so you had to wait 5 seconds for the X to appear so you could dismiss blocking graphic.

Today, there was a new graphic. It allowed you to view three videos before you had to turn off your Ad Blocker. I viewed a video 3 times just to see what happens.

Now all I see is this.

Google has out and out made it a violation of their ToS to have an ad blocker to view Youtube. Or you can pay them $$$.

I ban such sites from my systems by replacing their DNS name in my hosts file routed to 127.0.0.1 which means I can't view the site. I have quite a few banned sites now.

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[–] flossdaily@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I use YouTube for tutorials, education, and entertainment all the time. And YouTube music is how I listen to all my music.

I've been paying for the YouTube premium version for my family since day one.

Recently they took away my grandfathered-in pricing. It really costs me a ton of money.

But I remember that I'm keeping ads off my screens, my parents' screens, and my kids screens... And we all use YouTube music all the time.... So...

Yeah, a lot of money, but honestly, probably the best subscription I have.

I could never go back to ads.

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[–] Prethoryn@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (17 children)

I either pay to use the app or I get ads that pay for the platform to continue being used but I don't want to see the ads so my ad blocker blocks the ads.

A company is going to continue making revenue. I don't know why anyone is shocked by a company that makes ads changing a site to ask you to view more ads. Genuinely baffled that users waste their time complaining about something a big trillion dollar company owns and actively runs changing their platform to continue making them trillions of dollars then getting on here and going, "take that Google I am fed up."

Meanwhile, I have just been paying for YouTube premium with no ads supporting the content creators I love and moving on with my life.

EDIT: These comments are why Lemmy isn't growing.

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[–] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 15 points 1 year ago

It should be "So long YouTube and thanks for all the fish." Goddammit!

If you're going to borrow from Douglas Adams, at least get it right.

[–] Swarfega@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I dual boot and in Windows they are blocking me now. In Linux, I am not seeing the message. So it's not IP based. I run Firefox in both instances.

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[–] uis@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago

The enshitification of youtube is complete. Nothing stopping them from just upping the rate and duration of ads to the stratosphere.

[–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

i've still never seen this message outside of a screenshot; ublock origin in firefox (including tor browser, just need to hit the new circuit button sometimes) still works fine as of today. and so does yt-dlp.

the fact that some ad blockers are seeing this is a bad sign though :(

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[–] Sleestak_Chaka@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I use FreeTube on my desktop and Newpipe on my GrapheneOS Pixel 7, I don't see any ads or graphic overlays. The family uses AppleTV and the YouTube app is a horrible experience with the amount of ads, even for a 3 minute video. Future project is to look into Pihole or something to block ads at the router level.

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[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 14 points 1 year ago

Copy URL, alt+F2, mpv 'paste URL'.

[–] Maddie47@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 year ago

I use SmartTubeNext on a Fire TV and it works fine.

It even skips over in-video ads.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 14 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Sometimes I forget people like watch YouTube on purpose. I pretty much exclusively use it for music that's not on Bandcamp, short clips of old shows, and the occasional guide for something that's too visual to be described well in words.

Old man out of the loop, yells at clouds.

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)
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[–] Boiglenoight@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Is it enshittification, or how the Internet should work for commercial services? Youtube isn't publicly funded. You either pay for the product or become it in exchange for use.

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[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As soon as I have to see ads, I'm gone. Not mad, I get the business need for them. It's just not worth it for me. Most of my actual subscriptions are through a rss reader, and that effectively blocks all but the sponsorblock ones. For which I have sponsorblock.

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[–] zepheriths@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I will let you know but I haven't have issues with ad blocker on PC yet

[–] simonced@lemmy.one 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Here is my take on this.

First, I am with OP on this, but with mild counter points:

  • I block ads because they are intrusive, contain scam and viruses
  • I don't want to pay YT because I am already the product, and my trust is long gone about them saying they respect my privacy
  • "Hosting is expensive" is what we hear left and right but...
    • letting people upload many hours long is not what YT was supposed to be,
    • 4K vids and up are huge, so is HDR, do we really need such fat video files/streams? I don't...
    • for those who need 2000inch TV size quality, yeah, they want to charge those.
  • I would be OK to pay, but google will rise the price eventually and it feels like changing a contrcat I signed to begin with and I dan't agree with that. (price raising reason are the previous points above, I am not concerned by those and I don't see why I should pay that much)
  • I am a google pixel user, google already got some of my money anyway, which I am happy with.

In the same vein, I wait Netflix to raise their price again (I bit the bullet twice) but there won't be a third time.
Same for Spotify.

Those services should realize they are not essential, just bare useful, and should be priced as such.

Just my 2cts.

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[–] Ashelyn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Something I don't think anyone is talking about is that, if this is now considered a ToS violation, Google will probably decide at some point to start banning accounts over it. Oh, you use adblock? Now your email, Drive documents, and photos are gone.

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