corporations are people, right up until the consequences arrive.
this post was submitted on 07 Nov 2025
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I'll believe corporations are people the moment Texas executes one.
Schrodinger's corporation: either human or corporation until circumstances determine which allows them to evade responsibility
Guilty as fuck, yet get away with a 1.1 billion fine and self-elected compliance officer. What a joke.
Can anyone tell us how this should play out? I'm not familiar with corporate liability, especially criminal liability. For one, exactly which humans are accountable when there's an element of Swiss Cheese Security involved.
I don't know of any industry, even medicine, that has so many layers of accounting and accountability. That UPS crash? In a year or two we'll know where every nut and bolt came from, how tightly there were torqued, and with which exact tool. So how do we unwind a case this complex? Not an argument to drop it, but I can't see how it would be approached.
What does it look like to hold such a gigantic firm accountable? I honestly have no idea. We know the top dogs won't get hit, monster fines will only impact lower level workers. Does my ex-gf, who does technical drawings for Boeing, deserve to lose her job?
The Justice Department has said a jury trial risks sparing Boeing from further punishment.
One of those statements that sounds reasonable until it requires explanation. Anyone know what they're talking about?
All of that doesn't matter. The fact of the matter is, is that they all knew to an extent how bad the planes were. They allowed dozens of lives to die at that expense. If your poor and negligent behavior is taking lives away, you are held accountable and should face the maximum penalty. You're technically a murderer.
The company made decisions to save money, which ultimatively killed people. Several times.
They should be held accountable for their crimes like anyone else.
Yeah it sounds good to punish someone for suffering caused, but there's so many cogs involved in this machine, which one deserves to be pulled out and spanked? 😫😩
Sounds like a plea agreement
Strengthen the boycott!
How? The passengers can't just go and buy Airbus.
No but they can buy tickets to Airbuses. Low price carrier where I'm at has both. When booking I simply ask for an Airbus flight and decline any offer of hopping aboard a Boeing.
If nothing is available I'll either wait for a later flight, not go at all or book a regular priced flight at a competitor offering Airbus.
Only exception is in emergencies.
They can pressure their airlines and governments to buy Airbus instead.
Thanks, Trump.
The 346 souls lost were yellow, brown and black non-Americans so what seems to be the problem?
/s
And 3 more UPS guys this week.
That was a McDonnell Douglas plane, and now both fedex and ups have grounded their entire fleet of them.
Ah okay.
I'm shocked! SHOCKED!
Well, not that shocked. Really, who didn't see this coming?