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[–] Thwompthwomp@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Wow. These are bad. I really liked Mac back in Tiger days. Expose was insanely fast. But it just kept getting worse every release. The last straw for me was fighting to attach a gdb debugger to a very simple c program and just getting ever frustrated with the security settings and ipad’ication.

[–] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Yeah, I miss those days too…

Damn OS X was such a beast! It was like the OS was almost nagging you for being so efficient, almost never having enough to do… until you’d get a beachball at weird moments, but still

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

On one hand I appreciate the security work they’re doing. On the other, I haven’t the fucking foggiest idea what part of the computer to look at to figure out why I can’t do a thing. I never know if it’s something in the OS or if something is broken. I used a Mac from Tiger through Mountain Lion, and I think I got reasonably competent with the OS but what they’re shipping now is completely different.

Like by default you need to go into security settings to allow browser access to the local network. Whacky.

[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Like by default you need to go into security settings to allow browser access to the local network. Whacky.

Huh? I never have needed to do this.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago

I get a prompt to allow this when I set up a new app. I don’t have to dive into control panel settings, and I’m glad they give me the option to allow or deny a specific app local network privileges. This is a good thing.

[–] vateso5074@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

I don't know, I kinda like most of the newer icons. They're not perfect, but then neither were the old ones.

[–] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 days ago

I agree that some of them are worse, but some are better. I think this person is nitpicking for the sake of the article.

[–] br0da@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

I don’t have a problem with them. Using macOS for work and personal. It was an easy transition although it did take some getting used to initially.

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 3 points 4 days ago

Funny. Hadn’t seen these yet and didn’t have an opinion. I do have opinions re: what constitutes good design, however, so I was curious to hear their take. It turns out we disagree about everything.

Their fundamental criticism is that the older icons were better pictures. They were more “detailed,” more “photorealistic,” more “exciting,” less “bland,” had more “soul” and, my personal favorite, less different-than-what-I’m-used-to. But none of these describe good icons, the virtue of which is in the name itself. It should represent something uniquely without attempting to fully depict it or suggest anything qualitative about it beyond what is necessary to ensure it remains distinct and clear.

To my eye, the old icons generally appear far too busy and conceptually-loaded. The tournament-spec chessboard is a particularly extreme example since it will degrade to a mosaic pattern (though I bet the smaller size/DPI variations simplify the illustration to avoid it). The criticism of the new Finder icon as “meaningless” is especially choice, since that glyph is commonly “Go To” whereas the old icon is just a fun smiley face scribble that is, in fact, meaningless to anyone not yet familiar with the antiquated trademark.

Overall this just has a lot of old-man-yells-at-clouds energy, which isn’t useful. Change != bad. The new icons are fine. Chill out Paul.

[–] markz@suppo.fi 3 points 5 days ago

ios 7 all over again

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

another year another blog complaining about apple icons.

[–] veeesix@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 days ago

Eh, design trends ebb and flow. I think the complaints are overblown.