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[–] dukeofdummies@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

... that is an unbelievable number. As in I literally don't believe it.

That would be pretty much 100% of all non Mamdani voters according to the election results.

If these guys voted instead of threatening to move, Mamdani probably wouldn't have won.

[–] TheHighRoad@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago

Coincidentally, this also solves NYC's asshole problem.

[–] Sideshow_B00b@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 day ago
[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Mamdani: I just want people to eat food and live in houses.

Republicans: 🎶run for the hills run for your lives🎶

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

Oh no! The horror of free bus transportation and affordable housing. Aaaaaaaaaaa!

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

Right wing empty threats. No one is leaving.....

Just a bunch of chest pounding and whining

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

1 million republicans, landlords included, threathened to leave new york.

[–] BigDiction@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

Happened in Detroit, although it took 70 years and a perfect storm of social and economic factors.

[–] bonus_crab@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

honestly left leaning places should do this more. the right does it when they make cruel laws to torture dissidents - all the left needs to do is trigger them and get them to leave.

  • maybe require identification on social media (dislike but rightwing trolls get hurt more) ,
  • ban vehicles over a certain size on class c licenses (like 4k lbs, intentionally low enough to ban big pickup trucks),
  • ban private schools and fund schools from state taxes entirely instead of city for equity,
  • require highschoolers to take classes on psychology and parenting,
  • make sex ed mandatory and lgbt inclusive,
  • build up light rail and ban cars in cities except for delivery purposes,
  • require garbage to be sorted and actually fine people,
  • massively shorten prison sentences and focus on re education to end "prison culture",
  • tax incentivize continual adult education,
  • document undocumented immigrants
  • pay black people reparations
  • ensure access to abortions and contraceptives to everyone, including minors
  • legally mandate vaccines
  • institute a maximum wage,
  • institute election spending maximums,
  • ban landlords, the local govt takes ownership of rental properties and contracts property managers or something
  • universal healthcare
  • ban the pledge of allegiance

idk what else?

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 22 hours ago

maybe require identification on social media

Social media ID cuts both ways. Fascists would be the ones willing to use it to fuck people.

Require garbage to be sorted and actually fine people.

There was a guy in DC that got roasted, fined an entire apartment building because he found a single can in the trash stream. I like the idea, but there's a lot of power in that inspector postion.

massively shorten prison sentences and focus on re education to end “prison culture”,

I like it, we also need to super prop up the people that get out. Strong programs to keep them employed and fed and a support net to keep them from dropping back through the cracks. Most would be willing to work and become productive but the system is designed to reclaim them.

build up light rail and ban cars in cities except for delivery purposes,

That's fine if you never want to leave the city. A cheap driveshare program dedicated to city users with easy access from the subway would probably be needed. Also the subway is somewhat more unreliable than I'd like to see that pass.

ban landlords, the local govt takes ownership of rental properties and contracts property managers or something

That's another hard one. If the local government owns it, if the right gets in again, they could just destroy the poor. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have some working social systems, but building a utopia probably can't start in the middle of NYC. We'd need to go disney style and put in something semi rural as a testing ground.

[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 22 hours ago

Good except:
ID on social media: I believe in a fully anonymous web, maybe instead mandate them to ban right wing and alt left accounts?
Ban private schools: This hurts alternatives to governmental things
Mandate vaccines: Good, except that this would worsen their reputation, mandating would be more conspiracy-able
Government takes rental properties: No, the alt left tried that, no, just no. What could work is the government determining the rent on a property.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Uh, that first one is kinda dumb. Very much unnecessary and kinda goes along the same line of thinking as republicans giving up their rights so that minorities have it worse.

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[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Every single one of those will take about a decade in court battles to get passed (at a federal level). It could be quicker if you figure out how to introduce legislature on a state-level, but that is an incredibly volatile strategy (every state's billionaires will fight against it). Many, if not all, will lose out unless you strategize grass-roots movements for every single one of those issues. People love cops. People love blaming poor people. People love blaming others on their problems. No legislature of yours will fix that, so you also need to fix societal issues.

Just saying, this is what people say when they talk about idealism over pragmatism. It's great to have big ideas, but you need exponentially larger ideas on strategizing to prevent those ideas from failing. None of this will happen overnight unless something revolutionary happens, and Democrats don't want that---they will fight against radical change, it goes against the party's entire ideology. Measured, temperate, incremental change is the policy of the Democrats. These are incredibly radical ideas to the normal voting population and you have to convince them, not us autists on lemmy, that they are worth spending time and energy on instead of putting food on the table or stressing out on bills.

They're all great ideas that should work in theory and probably would in practice in many ways, but having good ideas isn't what gets votes. Having a plan all while appealing to low information voters (absolutely necessary, and is what destroys this world at the moment unfortunately and no new law will fix that) is the name of the game.

[–] waspentalive@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Require High Schoolers to also learn Civics and critical thinking.

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[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 11 points 1 day ago

Wealth tax. Probably more useful than maximum wage, anyway.

[–] axexrx@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You know how Texas just threatened tariffs on people moving in? He should do the opposite; a large% tax on anyone attempting to change their residency to a non NY one.

Youre a bilionaire who wants to leave NY? cool- that $10M in property you own should just about cover it, along with a check for a couple million. Otherwise you can keep paying taxes here.

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 86 points 2 days ago (6 children)

This is similar to how rich people will threathen to leave a country if taxes for them go up yet never do, because they live were they live and do business were they do business because of how good for them it is to live there and how much more profitable it is to do business were people are more prosperous and the Law actually works.

Turns out that such people want the quality of life they get living were they are and the juicy profits from operating their businesses there, whilst not paying for what makes it all possible themselves and thus be parasites on the rest, is just the cherry on top: they have no problem in saying whatever it takes - because talkie-talkie costs them nothing - to keep on getting that quality of life and profits whilst somebody else pays for the conditions that make it possible, what they're not fine with is the actually doing what they say they will do because if they do act as they threathen, it will cost them said quality of life and profits.

Unsurprisingly (for those who question things a bit further and don't just accept at face value the theatrics of society's top parasites) that "Paradise" free of "government oppression" called Somalia has failed to attract any of those those who claim they will leave the place were they live and do business when society elects somebody who will make them pay their fair share for that quality of life they so enjoy.

[–] Alaik@lemmy.zip 1 points 22 hours ago

Tl:dr rich people are crybabies? Who knew.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 44 points 2 days ago (10 children)

Even rich people who moved to texas from california like rogan and musk constantly bitch about how much texas sucks.

You get what you pay for.

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[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Around the world, rich people often do relocate personally for tax purposes. One of the reasons we don't often see rich people in the United States do this is that we have incredibly low taxes compared to the rest of the world. And that's just nominal tax rates; in practice the super-rich pay almost nothing, which makes it even weirder how rabidly anti-tax they are.

There is quite a bit of business relocation that happens because companies are lured to different locales through tax abatements.

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[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 55 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'll believe it when I see it!

Because when I see it, I'm moving to NYC!!

[–] Tryenjer@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And if the improbable actually happens, it just means that Mandani managed to lower house prices on his own.

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[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I think NYC is going to have more of a problem of people moving to the city thanks to Mamdani

[–] FisicoDelirante@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So are rent prices going to increase? He's already making everything worse already \s

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 64 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Lol, I live in California, and sometimes catty Republicans like to make snide comments about how they don't want to live here because of the "politics".

Every time I hear this, I get excited. Like... "Really? Where do you live? Is it nice? Go the fuck away please."

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I always laugh when conservatives describe Cali as a "shit hole". Yes, that's exactly why property is so cheap in California, because nobody wants to live in such an awful place.

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[–] toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

i'm laughing harder at the posts from TX saying 'the south is full, so don't come down here when NY turns into a communist hellhole'.

"oh no, my rent is frozen! we've got to get out of here!"

"where are we gonna go?"

"mexico.... ish"

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[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 254 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (17 children)

Wait until it happens. I can't count the number of people who dramatically stated they'd relocate to another city or country if some politico or other was elected and never followed through. Most people who say that are all talk and no walk...

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[–] oakey66@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago
[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Bye! Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 143 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (16 children)

Other disappointments when people didn’t flee from a lost election:

(He also said it in 2024 in reference to Harris… such a missed opportunity)

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago

Oh my god! Affordable food and housing!

runs away

[–] ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 147 points 2 days ago (29 children)

The propaganda machine against Zohran won't stop now that he's been elected.

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[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 65 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Call.

That's the biggest bs bluff if I've ever seen one.

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[–] mikenurre@lemmy.world 108 points 2 days ago (5 children)

1,000,000 claim they are going to pack up, sell their homes, find employment in another city, and move... but they couldn't be bothered to vote? Bunch of snowflakes.

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[–] InfiniteHench@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Is there an economist or other smart-ish person who has commented on what an actual exodus of 1m residents would do to housing prices there? I’m curious

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago

An analysis isn't really going to work without a lot of extra information. People don't just leave overnight because if they own property, which is the claim here, then they have to find someone to buy it. And as other people start leaving property values would plummet so then there would be less incentive for more people to leave.

And to begin with, really poor people have incredible difficulty moving in general, because they don't have extra money saved up to pay for a truck or to get a new apartment or to take time off of work to deal with all of that or to even apply for jobs in distant locations.

So let's move on to middle class renters. What about them, would they leave? But if somehow they did, that, would I think make room for a lot of other people to move into the city. As you know, many people commute from New Jersey and dislike it on account of the fact that they have to live in New Jersey and if they could move into the city they would probably do so. And then there's all of the other people who don't currently live in or near New York who are hearing about this person who might make the city an amazing place, from their point of view, and if they can get in on it then they're going to.

So I don't see the population significantly declining even if you somehow had people moving in and out at record numbers, and even that doesn't seem like it makes sense.

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