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A DOCUMENTARY FEATURING mothers surviving Israel’s genocide in Gaza. A video investigation uncovering Israel’s role in the killing of a Palestinian American journalist. Another video revealing Israel’s destruction of Palestinian homes in the occupied West Bank.

YouTube surreptitiously deleted all these videos in early October by wiping the accounts that posted them from its website, along with their channels’ archives. The accounts belonged to three prominent Palestinian human rights groups: Al-Haq, Al Mezan Center for Human Rights, and the Palestinian Centre for Human Rights.

The move came in response to a U.S. government campaign to stifle accountability for alleged Israeli war crimes against Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank.

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[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 92 points 1 week ago (11 children)

I feel like aiding war criminals in deleting evidence should get your company destroyed.

Maybe not all of Alphabet unless we can prove this was an initiative started from the top, but Youtube should be diassembled for one-sidedly purging evidence. Hopefully, those accounts kept offline copies.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago

Nothing, no matter how bad, evil, terrible, treasonous, or ihumane, will destroy youtube. Except if they fail to honor a C&D from Disney.

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[–] devolution@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Is there another alternative to YouTube? One that isn't a right wing hellscape?

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 points 5 days ago

As others have said, Nebula is pretty great. Much more limited in content, since creators are invite-only, and they curate for high quality creators. But it's growing quite quickly and has a wide variety of content from leftist cultural video essays, to music analysis, to urbanism, film criticism, science, original films, game shows, and more.

There are a couple of centrist creators on there that I personally avoid, but most creators are centre-left to leftist, and I don't think there's anyone I would explicitly describe as right-wing.

It's subscription only, but extremely affordable at $36/year or $6/month if you sign up through a creator's invite code, and I think they promised grandfathered pricing if they raise the price in the future. You can see their library without an account at https://nebula.tv/explore/videos. Or ask any more questions you might have at !nebula@lemmy.world.

[–] HurricaneLiz@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

I moved to NewPipe - no ads, and you can import your yt playlists and subscriptions so you don’t have to start from scratch. Plus it plays in the background and if the phone screen is off

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Anything that allows distributed hosting without any central accountability will inevitably have right-wing content uploaded - we have this problem in the fediverse as well. I think the best solution is to create an instance within these platforms that can stick within a certain niche to build trustworthyness (ie: an instance solely dedicated to news footage/documentaries).

[–] majster@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

isn't right wing censorship worse than right wing propaganda?

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

There's nuance for sure (guess I should have worded the root comment better), but I'm referring to activities involving fake/generated content, conspiracy theories, or things like dismissing science or verified historical events.

[–] majster@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 days ago

I think fediverse shows that the model works. Fringe ideas stay fringe because you can't amplify it with bots.

[–] sloppysol@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 week ago (14 children)

Problem with PeerTube is the content is pretty scattered and there's frankly just not that much normal content. There's relatively a lot for like Linux stuff, but other than that there's not a ton. Also, there's no way to compensate people, so hard to attract content creators (this is both a plus and a negative tbh).

Other problem is that, like pretty much all fediverse stuff, it's possible to wind up on an instance with a bunch of Nazi content federated to it. Of course, since YouTube has Nazi content, this isn't really much different.

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[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

That work at such a scale, with "popular" content creator being able to actually share their content, for free? No, not really. There are small scale initiatives, but you likely won't find much of the mainstream people on them. And, depending on what you use, you won't find much at all, because searching for content is a mess unless you are directly pointed to it from somewhere else.

There is a big issue with making up an alternative to youtube, at anything approaching the scale of youtube: it represents a lot of content, streamed from servers under strict time constraints, to many dozen/hundreds/thousands of people. With a centralized infrastructure that requires a lot of servers, spread over many places and many different networks. And these cost money. Using peer to peer at such a scale isn't that great either, although with more popularity it could improve.

Existing large providers such as youtube can handle this because they have such a vast CDN available, which allows sending one copy of a video into a region once, then spreading it across multiple diffusers, who then have a reasonable load on them.

[–] tomatolung@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 week ago

That was my first thought. Some variation of https://peertube.tv/

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[–] SpankyDoodle@eviltoast.org 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Knowing why in these examples is important but it'd be nice to NOT see every big name just lean right this model of government we're struggling with. STOP BEING COMPLICIT WITH ISRAEL. They are acting as terrorists. Anyone who commits those atrocities needs to be exposed, doesnt matter who. This is a humanitarian issue with our whole civilization.

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[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Skimmed the article (yay for reader view) but it doesn't really say WHY the channel was deleted?

I am not in the slightest bit shocked by google bending over backwards to pleasure trump and netanyahu. But this also doesn't seem like their MO. They are usually "good" about explaining what new rule they invented and why that suddenly gave a channel 40 strikes retroactively and I am not seeing that here?

Whereas there are a few mid-size channels that have allegedly been flagged "by AI" as being other bad channels? Which... actually seems more likely since it is less youtube taking an actual stand on anything and more just deciding the ai slop channels that stole footage are the originators and to ban everyone involved.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's also possible, not having seen the videos in question, that they simply did violate YouTube's rules regarding graphic content. YouTube has had a terrible record of banning important content despite its societal value because of rigid adherence to ill-thought-out content policies. AI takes that problem and turns it up to 11.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

that they simply did violate YouTube’s rules regarding graphic content

I'm 99% sure this is the actual reason

[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

The reason why I don't think this is the case is I do believe they were flagged by Zionist to be violating the rules, yet YouTube didn't do anything until now.

Most of the YouTube video are blurry and obtain from Instagram, tiktok and telegram, both tik Tok and Instagram would delete them if the violate any rule.

It is more relastic to assume the administration pushed for this. It help them to know what exactly they need to do, in order to take similar videos in the next attempt of genocide or war crimes.

Remember they literally spent millions to stop tiktok and control Meta, Google, and Wikipedia. They did the same for traditional media, but didn't pay enough attention to social media effects until now.

[–] something15525@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago
[–] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

nice censorship youtube.

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