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[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)

No one should care what the government of Qatar thinks is hypocrisy.

[–] bl4ckblooc@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dismiss the entire idea because of the publication it comes from (which has been know for posting things that other news outlets won’t cover). Smart.

[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A false equivalence? Sure, I'll always dismiss that.

[–] bl4ckblooc@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

Whatever helps your bubble not pop

[–] wheels@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ok, I could look this up, but I’m asking you instead. Why is Israel’s behaviour over the last 10 years in Gaza more justified than Russia’s?

[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Because Ukraine isn't run by a government composed of people dedicated to eliminating Russia as a nation? Because Ukraine doesn't attack Russian civilians? Because Ukraine isn't a terrorist organization bent on literal genocide? Because Israel hasn't occupied any portion of Gazan territory since 2005?

FAFO is what's going on here for the Gazans. They fucked around, now they're finding out. I have many criticisms of Israeli policy, but Hamas are uncivilized barbarians, murderous thugs it's impossible to negotiate with.

[–] bl4ckblooc@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And IDF is famous for their great negotiations.

[–] salvador@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Because Ukraine isn’t run by a government composed of people dedicated to eliminating Russia as a nation? Because Ukraine doesn’t attack Russian civilians?

What sources do you make your claims based on? Even in some US and European ones, including the most mainstream, there'll be evidence to precisely the opposite. Not always, here and there. Let alone in the russian ones.

[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What does the charter of Hamas say? That's my source.

[–] salvador@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You didn't quote anything.

[–] salvador@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

See what text of mine you initially replied to, and find a quote there

[–] salvador@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No one should care what the government of USA thinks is hypocrisy.

[–] tetraodon@feddit.it 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
  • Tankies: “Resisting invasions is now good”
  • Russia: “Invasions are bad”
  • Republicans: “Sending arms to fight invasions is good”
  • China: “A two state solution is now good”

https://mastodon.world/@DarthPutinKGB/111206006465241459

  • Qatar: "The West are hypocrites"
[–] bamboo@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The differences in support between Ukraine and Palestine really demonstrates how geopolitical actors act purely in self interest. They may talk about oppressed peoples and freedom and autonomy and all that, but when it comes to choosing sides it’s always about self interest.

[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee -5 points 1 year ago

Yes, yes, let's all have sympathy for the genocidal terrorists in Gaza! If we only let all of them into Israel and allow them to murder or ethnically cleanse every single Jew in Israel and Palestine, there'll be peace.

[–] salvador@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Europe and US like to accuse others of everything. But they, strangely, don't like to be accused themselves in anything