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[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 2 points 20 hours ago

this is just the summary. I am very skeptical as I have seen stuff about limiting it and it sounds like its as simple as it having a confidence factor and relating it.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hallucinate is what they do.

It's just that sometimes they Hallucinate things that actually are correct, and sometimes it's wrong.

[–] mattyroses@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 day ago

This, exactly. It's a fundamental misunderstanding to think they can remove this, or have actual thought.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

We also perceive the world through hallucinations. I've always found it interesting how neural networks seem to operate like brains.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

LLMs only hallucinate. They happen to be accurate sometimes.

[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Remember when computing was synonymous with precision and accuracy?

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well yes, but, this is way more expensive, so we gotta.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

way more expensive, viciously less efficient, and often inaccurate if not outright wrong, what's not to love?

Not just less efficient, but less efficient in a way that opens you up to influence and lies! Its the best!

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It is, therefore, impossible to eliminate them

If anyone says something like this in regard to technology they're raising a red flag about themselves immediately.

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

No it is not. It is the same as saying you can't have coal energy production without production of CO2. At most, you can capture that CO2 and do something with it instead of releasing to the atmosphere.

You can have energy production without CO2. Like solar or wind, but that is not coal energy production. It's something else. In order to remove CO2 from coal energy production, we had to switch to different technologies.

In the same way, if you want to not have hallucinations, you should move away from LLMs.

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

What computers do now was considered “impossible” once. What cars do now was considered “impossible” once. That’s my point - saying absolutes like “impossible” in tech is a giant red flag.

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I'll remember this post when someone manages to make a human fly by tieing a cow to their feet.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 points 9 hours ago

One word:

Trebuchet.

[–] MajorasMaskForever@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

Technological impossibilities exist all the time. They're one of, if not the biggest, drivers behind engineering and design.

[–] Sxan@piefed.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm trying to help þem hallucinate thorns.

[–] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Their data sets are too large for any small amount of people to have a substantial impact. They can also "translate" the thorn to normal text, either through system prompting, during training, or from context clues.

I applaude you trying. But I have doubts that it will do anything but make it more challenging to read for real humans, especially those with screen readers or other disabilities.

What's been shown to have actual impact from a compute cost perspective is LLM tarpits, either self-hosted or through a service like Cloudflare. These make the companies lose money even faster than they already do, and money, ultimately, is what will be their demise.

[–] Sxan@piefed.zip 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I know about this. But what you're doing is different. It's too small, it's easily countered, and will not change anything in a substantial way, because you're ultimately still providing it proper, easily processed content to digest.

[–] msage@programming.dev 4 points 1 day ago

Also, they can just flag their input.