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Defense minister announces ‘complete siege’ of Gaza: No power, food or fuel
(www.timesofisrael.com)
"human animals"... reminiscent of "Untermenschen".
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Yeah it kinda dehumanization tactic, but on the other hand people are one of the animal species. I would rather say those are brainwashed individuals coming from shithole society which are beyond help and do not deserve any mercy.
Everybody already saw what they do to innocent civilians, especially women and children. Those people are pure human diarrhea and should be treated like one.
Everybody already saw what they do to innocent cilivians
Yea we saw
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Ah yes that changes the situation completely. Show this to the raped women, children and their families please. I think they will understand afterwards and have a closue.
+1 for the mental gymnastics you just performed. You commit a crime and are pardoned by pointing on a bigger one.
The point is that neither sides are saints. You cannot just blame Palestine while letting Israel off the hook.
This is such obvious prelude to actual genocide by Israel, and you don't see any issues with that?
Did I say something different? I commented on one particular event and you are automatically assuming everything around.
No one is pardoning crimes except those funding and supporting Israel. Israel has literally never been punished for its crimes. Palestine has been punished for its crimes 1000x over, they have also been punished for non-crimes, for talking, for praying, for procreating, for eating, for drinking, for sleeping, for compromising, for negotiating, for asking for help, for not asking for help, and for existing.
No one is saying that the crimes against innocent Israelis is the goal nor the method of liberation. But we are all more than willing to allow those crimes to occur in the process of liberating Palestine because despite the depravity of those crimes, they are still less depraved, less numerous, and less systematized than the crimes of Israel. We acknowledge that these sorts of crimes happen in all wars and have always happened in all wars for the last 2000 years or more. But that which perpetuates the state of the world, the state of the world where these crimes are committed by the dominant hegemons and their junior partners, is always going to be orders of magnitude worse than that which seeks to end this state of the world. It will always be preferable for violence to be used towards the aims of ending the North Atlantic dominance over the world than to use violence to perpetuate it. It will always be preferable to use violence to end capitalism then it will be to use violence to continue it.
The decades of violence against Palestinians is multiple times over more violent than anything Palestine could do to Israelis in the next year, even if they committed these crimes every day for a year, because a year is just not enough time to catch up to the amount of violence the Israelis have meted out to the Palestinians.
So, we mourn the suffering of all Innocents, but we cheer the cause of liberation, because we know that through this struggle, net violence will be reduced and the root causes of violence will be dealt a significant blow.
That last paragraph sounds eerily familiar. Do you not see it?
So in your logic… what should be done to those messed up people who killed, raped and enslaved civilians?
You changed your statement here
In your previous comment, you wrote "they" as a whole population. Now you write "those who", the more limited segment.
But Israel doesn't just punish the perpetrators here, do they?
I'd be happy to answer, as long as we can talk also about how Israel appears to be gearing up for its own final solution to the Palestine problem.
You are entangling in your political bs and now are trying to negotiate something. If you wanna answer, do it.
That's really rich, implicitly claiming that civilians are a valid target for one side, but not the other, and that this is somehow not a political distinction. But I'm happy to state it outright: Hamas needs to be held to account, as does the government of Israel. It is not acceptable to target civilians, for anybody. It is Israel doing so now, and must be stopped.
There are no evidence any civilians were raped or are enslaved. Stop spreading disinformation.
And I guess according to your logic, countless thousands more innocents should suffer or die because of the horrible actions of a few.
Of course no evidence if you stick your head in the sand.
Enlighten me
Not my job ;)
so your job is to spread lies, propaganda and fake news, and support calls for genocide. Got it 👍
It actually is your job if you’re trying to have a debate. You make the claim, you provide the evidence/source.
In your twisted view of the world… maybe. Otherwise, no.
My twisted view of the world? There are rules to debating whether you like it or not. It’s clear you don’t want to actually debate and just want to criticize anyone who speaks against you. Perhaps take some time to understand why you hold the beliefs you do, and why others would hold the beliefs they do. Going around spouting your opinion without being able to back up why you have that opinion with sources will not win anyone to your side. Good luck IRL dude.
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Where did you get your info from?
Mahmoud Abbas, president of Palestine and head of Fatah, was the one to suspend both legislative and presidential elections and not Hamas. In fact, the latter “strongly opposed the decision to call off elections” (npr.org).
Abbas' party has been working closely with the Israeli authorities. His excuse was that “Israel refused to commit to allowing Palestinians to vote in Israeli-occupied East Jerusalem” (npr.org).
Some (quite convincingly) hypothesise that the suspension of the elections was aimed at preserving his presidency and salvage “his fractured Fatah party [which] was expected to suffer another embarrassing defeat to Hamas.” (apnews.com).
How can one expect the people to not fight if democracy can't be exercised freely?
It seems likely Israel will succeed in clearing the West Bank
The West Bank and the Gaza Strip are different areas. Hamas doesn't control the West Bank, so what are you on about?
Fuck you, you piece of shit, the blood of thousands of innocent souls is on your useless fascistic hands. I hope you get what you deserve, you pathetic disgrace of a human. Signed, an Israeli citizen.
The defense minister explicitly announcing that Israel is committing war crimes.
Yeah, more death and misery for civilians. That will totally show the people why not to support the only ones fighting for them, even if it's a fucking terrorist group like Hamas. Just like Dehousing worked against Germany in WW2, shooting Ukrainian schools and kindergardens works in Ukraine today, and more than a dozen similiar examples in between those two totally worked...
You'd imagine that support for revolutionaries seeking self-determination would be stronger in the West given the origins of the modern American and French state.