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[–] M500@lemmy.ml 117 points 9 months ago (61 children)

This is so strange. How can people have so little empathy for the lives of innocent people?

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 90 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Israeli citizens are subjected to daily propaganda (e.g. "there are no civilians in Gaza", "Hamas is ISIS", "Hamas wants to murder all jews", etc.) to legitimize their fascistic policies.

There are a lot of parallels to the US short/y after 9/11.

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[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] LostWon@lemmy.ca 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It's part of Israel's propaganda to make this about religion to invoke irrational "War on Terror" sentiments in people who haven't looked into it that deeply.

In reality, they're dehumanizing and targeting all Palestinian Arabs, including Christians. Hence the shooting up and bombing of churches along with everything else.

Some of them are Kahanists but I don't think religion figures into their motives as a wider group except for scapegoating purposes.

[–] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 34 points 9 months ago
[–] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 32 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You just need to convince people that the "innocent people" are not people

[–] crazyminner@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)
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[–] KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Well to quote the Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant, “We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly.”

They think Palestinians are subhuman. Israel has become the evil it once fled.

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[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

A lot of people's hearts are too full of hatred to hold anything else.

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[–] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

5% of the population is psychopathic. Folks forget this stat. They also forget that moral competence exists on a spectrum, so that even regular people are capable of great evil, especially in service to their religion.

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[–] pop@lemmy.ml 46 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's only a genocide if the west disagrees with it.

[–] Lmaydev@programming.dev 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Genocide has a pretty strict definition.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

But yet the West refuses to apply it to Gaza, which clearly qualifies...

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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 40 points 9 months ago (12 children)

All religions are shit. Humanity really needs to shed this primitive baggage already.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 33 points 9 months ago (3 children)

It's not about religion. It's about settler colonialism.

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[–] small44@lemmy.world 33 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

A bunch of terrorists

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 24 points 9 months ago (4 children)

All the righties in any other situation would be screaming that protesters blocking a road should be run over.

I don't really agree but perhaps we should respect their wishes this one time. 🤔

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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I suspect every country has their MAGA. And the problem is when it gets to big.

I think when people feel survival precarity, its easy to get into their head they have to hoard what they got from the Others.

That figured pretty largely into the story of Sodom, it didn't end well, albeit by deus ex machina.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

The problem also exists when the middle is content, asleep, or paid off.

[–] anticurrent@sh.itjust.works 20 points 9 months ago (4 children)

The media want us to believe that the Problem with Israel is the far right government, while in reality it is the whole fucking Nation.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 29 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I have known a number of actual Israelis. The majority just wants to live peaceful lives.

This is definitely the MAGA side.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago

The polls show that Israelis still overwhelmingly support what's happening in Gaza.

They seem to believe that the only way to live in peace is to kill all Arabs.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

The majority just wants to live peaceful lives.

Problem is what do we define "peaceful lives". You and I think it just means being able to go about our daily lives and just that, but Israelis have been drowning in propaganda. It's like saying "Americans just want peaceful lives right after 9/11/" Sure, but what they think will get them their peaceful lives is an armed invasion and genocide. It was a popular enough view to get Bush reelected.

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[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 14 points 9 months ago

Your social media feed wants you to think that, but the reality is that these protesters are the far right ultra orthodox types that vote for parties that are the furthest right of the governing coalition. Yay for proportional representation where you can form the government by making a coalition with the furthest right parties, right?

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[–] occhineri@feddit.de 11 points 9 months ago (8 children)

Can anyone provide further information?

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 42 points 9 months ago

Kerem Shalom crossing: Israeli protesters hold up aid trucks to Gaza

TLDR: According to Israelis all Palestinians are Hamas so they're justified in killing them through starvation.

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[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

A "rave" in the barest sense of the word. That's got to be the shittiest "rave" I've ever seen in my life, and I was barely coherent or intelligible through most of them.

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[–] Holyginz@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

That's not a rave. That's fascists celebrating preventing aid for people who they hate because they believe in different skydaddies

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