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Title of the (concerning) thread on their community forum, not voluntary clickbait. Came across the thread thanks to a toot by @Khrys@mamot.fr (French speaking)

The gist of the issue raised by OP is that framework sponsors and promotes projects lead by known toxic and racists people (DHH among them).

I agree with the point made by the OP :

The “big tent” argument works fine if everyone plays by some basic civil rules of understanding. Stuff like code of conducts, moderation, anti-racism, surely those things we agree on? A big tent won’t work if you let in people that want to exterminate the others.

I'm disappointed in framework's answer so far

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[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just saw this on Mastodon. They locked the thread in question... that's very disheartening. Terrible really. These people are either ignorant or complicit. Perhaps both. In any case, let's spread the word and drive them out of business.

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[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 28 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yikes. I loved that framework trailblazed repairable laptops, but those responses are pretty bad.

Edit: it's so much worse now. That thread is flooded with bad faith far-right assholes, who in another thread admitted to trying to silence dissent by reporting comments to get the treads locked, and one called for framework to ban discussion of this issue entirely.

[–] ghosthacked@lemmy.wtf 18 points 2 days ago

I have a fw13 and was waiting to get a fw12. I don't think I can continue to support fw if they're fine with conducting business with far right extremists.

[–] Hominine@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I am appreciating many of the replies pillorying the "big tent" response, but what an obvious non-answer to a very real problem. It all smacks of Framework being cool with giving money to far-right provocateurs, and a well off shitheel at that.

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[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I remember the scandal around hyprland and it was pretty bad - much worse than one or two fascists contributing.

Even so I could forgive distros still having hyprland in their repos.

But giving money to the project itself? No.

Where are we with hyprland these days? How has the shitshow continued sice 2023?

Oh and btw, in what capacity is Framework supporting hyprland? Is there a Framework distro?

[–] pegazz@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Tbf I don't know much about the Hyprland history. The point raised by the OP on the forum links to tweets by both framework and Hyprland accounts saying framework became a "gold tier sponsor" of hyprland. It's fair to assume that involves a donation.

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[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Wait frameworl k aka the laptop ppl?

Why can't we have nice things......

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[–] piyuv@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (15 children)

Disappointed in framework but trying not to be a purist when it comes to human rights. Right to repair is a human right too and framework is doing good work on that front. I think they’ll realize their mistakes as the figures they let into their “big tent” keep showing their true colors.

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