Ignore them and tell them trump is an idiot if you do talk to them and they bring it up. Watch them freak out.
Sorry, the brainwashing was too successful. You wont save them. They domt care that he raped children. They wont change their minds.
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I live in a place that could pass for MAGA Mecca and am literally surrounded on all fronts pretty much anywhere I go. It is extremely isolating. Thankfully my parents are sane; still Christian, but at least they look on with a similar confused horror - though they still "like a lot of what he's doing, just not how he's doing it."
What are your thoughts on moving out of MAGA Mecca, vs trying to survive surrounded by cultists?
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They will pretend to have "discussions" with you, but in the end they will always vote R.
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I was in your position not all that long ago. I became such a better person by simply moving. If you can, I would encourage you to do so. Being around people who are uplifting will take burdens off of your mind that you never realize are making you miserable.
They think I hate them but I promise you it's shame. If we do talk, it's Dishonest Harmony.
"Dishonest Harmony" is a term I've never heard but wow it is perfect.
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My parents are consuming more red media. This seems to happen in immigrant non-english circles.
Fascist Propaganda plays super hard on the fears and nagging doubts that come with being an immigrant. The fears of deportation, imprisonment, or worse, not fitting in. The fear that everything is for nothing because someone is always poised to steal it out from under you. The fear that you are simply too weak to make it in the world, that there are things you don't understand and never will.
It's truly insidious.
My dad is awesome but my mom is scum. I told her to fuck off and stop talking to me but it wasn’t that hard cos she used to abuse me and didn’t raise me
We don’t talk about partisan infected topics
Same, and I fucking hate it
My parents are normal but I don't speak to any other relatives anymore.
Yeah, my parents are still basically the same liberal Democrats they were when I was a kid. Meanwhile I've gone farther left and the rest of the family mutated into a virulent strain of fascist.
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This sounds very familiar. I don't often try to talk politics around my family anymore, but they still feel free to regurgitate whatever nonsense conservative news has riled them up about around me. Its way to annoying to ignore, so I try to set the record straight when they do that. It doesnt matter though. I've completely laid out all the details on a topic, and they just stare at me. When I try to get a response its usually along the lines of "I don't know about all that, but I'm not going to acknowledge that anything you said was right". Its like they have to go check fox news before they know how to respond. They just assume I'm wrong about everything before I even start talking. Its rich coming from people who are constantly misinformed, and by their own admission don't know much about any topic I've tried discussing. I'm on the verge of telling my dad "I want to think of you as a good person, but I'm running out of excuses for you".
I’m on the verge of telling my dad “I want to think of you as a good person
I guess at the root of this, I realize my parents are deeply selfish people. My dad, at least, includes his children in the things he's selfish for...that is to say he cares about his kids, and extends the "in-group" to us (but then fuck everyone who ain't us). My mom doesn't even go that far. She pretty much only cares about herself. She never hit us, she doesn't root for the Empire in Star Wars...part of me tries not to judge her too harshly for her behavior. She grew up in a time where women weren't expected to do much, think much, say much...just be moms...and so even though she's kind of a shitty mom, she never really wanted more than that, and I think it impacted how much she read or thought about things.
So while I tend to think of that kind of selfishness as a type of evil, she lacks the critical thinking skills to see outside of herself, and at her age, it's too late to assume she can. I don't know, I have this mixture of anger and pity, anger that she's not a good person, and pity because I don't think she's able to learn how to become one.
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Sorry for your loss
got their numbers blocked and stopped checking FB because they are there. they kept trying to make me maga-like, i avoided saying anything mean, i have come to terms with just cocooning, just want to be left alone
“If everyone who understands the seriousness of the situation were to become more involved, then we would have all the people we need. We need to mobilize our friends, not convert our opponents.”
~ Rebecca Solnit
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Before Trump, we’re get republican still? My parents were always super republican, but won’t vote for Trump. Also won’t vote for a democrat….
Are they twits? A twit is someone who cant process more than 512 characters at once.