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As the article notes, the increase seems to be driven mainly by users in Asia, where recycling and reusing older hardware is quite common. I wonder if third-party companies are offering extended security patches there, which could make affordable second-hand Windows 7 machines more appealing for people who just need them for browsing or light tasks. It would certainly make sense given recent fiascos and Microsoft’s current stance on AI, especially with generative AI being used to develop system-level code.

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[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

They should make a Windows version called Windows 10P which is the same as Windows 10 but only the bare-bones necessities and no extra crap or required online services, and sell it for $59.99 (seeing that Windows is already de facto freeware). That's probably an order of magnitude than what they make from intrusive advertising anyway to a single user over the lifespan of a computer.

[–] morphballganon@mtgzone.com 1 points 53 seconds ago

Computers that are too new for Windows 7 come with Windows 10 preinstalled on them though. Who would buy an extra copy? You can debloat Windows 10 with a debloater tool

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

No way they will do that. The value for microsoft these days is in harvesting their victims info and forcing them in to their walled garden.

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Walled garden? Windows? Do you even understand what a “walled garden” is?

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

They have been trying to force a microsoft accounts on everyone. I know what a walled garden and when Microsoft looks at apples they are jealous. Remember S mode? The shitbox machines microsoft pushed out that could only use their app store. That is the end goal for them. They just can't sell it.

My current problem is keeping copilot and recall off of our public computers. People are using them and want them clear of spyware and intrusive monitoring. You can not really get rid of any of the microsoft software since they now cache it on the computer. Anytime someone new logs in it puts 365 and copilot on their profile. If you delete it from the cache its back the next update cycle. They have begun putting notepad and basic programs in the cache. So you can't just kill it by making the cache path inaccessible. They are gearing up to close off all holes and force their app store onto everyone. They are working toward a walled garden where everyone has a microsoft account.

So maybe you don't know what a walled garden is? You don't understand that they have everything in place to lock out any third party software. They have recall, a huge security risk to train up their AI's. You can't believe anything they say about it. I know this because I've been around since the dos floppies had the IBM logo on them.

They have a unmanageable cache of software downloading without consent that uses their app store and if you kill it with a gpo you start having problems with basic functions. They killed wsus because it could be used to lock out their garbage. Despite operating in a domain environment I still see messages on accounts urging people to link a microsoft account.

So please tell me about what I know or don't know.

[–] jaxxed@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

It would be of lower value to them without the data-gathering and the AI injection.

The data makes them money. The AI helps th justify their investment, but also gives them data to ad to their models.

[–] Kailn@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 2 hours ago

So more ppl are re-purposing old, legacy win7 machines despite security risk...
Completely clueless about anything linux or floss in that matter wether even if there where lighter distros with better hardware support & enough apps for everyday office needs & more.

Like win7 can't even run any UWP apps, photoshop or steam anymore.
It's great livin' in 2025

[–] SleafordMod@feddit.uk 14 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Nobody should be using old versions of Windows that no longer get security updates. Either switch to Linux and install all of the latest security updates, or enable the coming year of security updates on Windows 10, or run Windows 11.

[–] BCBoy911@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Agree for a main computer but there's no risk when using Windows 7 or XP on an offline machine.

[–] SleafordMod@feddit.uk 4 points 3 hours ago

Fair point, I guess some people might want to do that to play old games or something like that.

[–] rozodru@piefed.social 6 points 8 hours ago

within the past month? what all these people in Asia suddenly found a stockpile of machines with Win7 on them and all, collectively, decided "yeah lets just use these"?

I don't buy it.

[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

It's almost as if there's a demand for meat and potatoes OS.

[–] carrylex@lemmy.world 36 points 20 hours ago
[–] radix@lemmy.world 175 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)
  • Windows 7 was used to browse more web pages on a subset of sites that use the Statcounter plugin, and mostly in one area of the world.

But that doesn't make a good headline.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 13 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Could it be that something is spoofing a Win7 signature?

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

I personally just edited the registry to stop my Win10 upgrading to 11. If it fails, it's Manjaro time.

[–] kylian0087@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Manjaro might not be the best starting point tbh. So many better choices.

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 hours ago

It's not that I'm disagreeing with you. I'm just not agreeing with you.

I personally think that (as unpopular an opinion as it may be) Flatpak's largely make the choice of first distro irrelevant. The weakness in Manjaro is that you either risk using the AUR or stay on old versions of the software. Or with Mint/Ubuntu/etc... you either risk adding random repos to your sources list or you use older versions of the software.

Either way, you run the risk of a new person mucking up their system with a bad repo or a bad aur package.

The alternative, using flatpaks, largely solves both issues for when you need newer versions of a certain software, and are dead simple to install/remove/update, etc...

And I say this as someone who was super skeptical of flatpak's for a very very long time.

[–] xep@discuss.online 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

If you disable TPM in your bios, W11 won't install, nor update if it is already installed.

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 2 points 8 hours ago

FYI if you have disk encryption enabled you need to pause/disable it first (assuming you're using automatic unlock using the TPM, which usually is the default)

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 11 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Still, it's unusual for that to happen.

[–] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 12 points 17 hours ago

Ehh, bots have always presented nonsense UAs to servers. And since modern browsers hard-code the OS version in the UA string, pretending to be an old browser on an old OS could be a (probably ineffectual) way to bypass fingerprinting.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 day ago

I think that it's a possibility for the rest of the world.

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[–] Luci@lemmy.ca 83 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It’s okay, Windows 10 will be the last version of Windows you’ll need!!!

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

True enough, I changed to LMDE from 10 2 yeaes aho. Started on 3.1 (from MS DOS)

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 83 points 1 day ago (17 children)

It was. Linux Mint has been beautiful since I switched last year. Certainly nicer than windows.

[–] Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

My laptop runs so much better now with Mint after getting rid of windows

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[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 6 points 20 hours ago

Yep, Bazzite has been great for me on my gaming PC. Never going back.

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[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 60 points 1 day ago

Possibly from people booting up 15 year old laptops to see if they‘re still running so they can install linux on them before trying it on the big machine. Yes, this is my made up narrative but I believe that more than in a Win7 comeback.

[–] TaterTot@piefed.social 32 points 1 day ago

Year of the Windows 7 Desktop?!

[–] mormund@feddit.org 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Don't have a link to the thread on Mastodon, but it was only in Singapore. So it is likely a troll or some glitch.

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[–] tio_bira@lemmy.world 9 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Tbf proton evolving fast as he doing, soon i won't even will need windows beside my workplace notebook

[–] hornywarthogfart@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Switched to Linux a couple years ago and at this point it is rare that a game doesn't "just work" and even rarer when it still won't work after trying other versions of proton in the Steam compatibility settings for the game.

Depending on if there is a specific game you know doesn't work that is a deal breaker for you, it might be fine at this point to switch. Just throwing that out there. You may not need more compatibility than what is available.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah I think a lot of people don't understand how far it's come. Often even games that Steam lists as "unsupported" will work with some very light tinkering.

[–] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 hours ago

Using wine and Proton, I've been able to play old windows games that haven't worked on real windows for over two decades.

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