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[–] EonNShadow@pawb.social 13 points 16 hours ago (6 children)

My job doesn't allow me to use a jailbroken/rooted device

So if/when this goes through I'll be switching to iOS.

Given the choice between two closed platforms, I'll pick the one that ostensibly says they're privacy focused instead of the one actively enshittifying their product.

[–] DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

You should just get a cheap phone to use for work. No reason to have their software on your own device. That will undoubtedly be used for creepy purposes.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

And the obvious annoyance of having two phones

[–] DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 14 hours ago

Still worth it. The amount of time you will save by not having junk on your phone slowing it down will make up for it.

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.org 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Your job can say what phone you have? I don't get it

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[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 13 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

How does google plan to enforce this? Will they disable side-loading for any app that isn't registered with google?

[–] j_j@muenchen.social 1 points 16 hours ago

@AlteredEgo
Yes, pretty much. You need to sign the app with a key registered with Google.
@ardi60

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[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 18 points 18 hours ago (6 children)

This is why I didn't bother switching to GOS, Lineage, Calyx etc despite being sick of Apple's anti-foss monopoly — marketed as Privacy™️ and Security™️ — for years.

The late stage capitalism of western oligarchies indicated that Google's rug pull of AOSP was an imminent inevitability. After already having to change my services and workflows multiple times over the last 2 decades — despite careful analysis and forethought — due to services ever changing value propositions, acquisitions, and all other forms of enshittification, I'm at the point where I won't bother wasting energy on 99% of digital products unless they're open source and I can run them indefinitely on my own Linux server.

The more dependent you grow on digital products, the more interdependent they become, and the more time and effort is required to replace or substitute them.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 12 hours ago

This is why I didn't bother switching to GOS, Lineage, Calyx etc despite being sick of Apple's anti-foss monopoly — marketed as Privacy™️ and Security™️ — for years.

I'm at the point where I won't bother wasting energy on 99% of digital products unless they're open source and I can run them indefinitely on my own Linux server.

but.. this doesn't make any sense. the roms you brought up can be still used indefinitely, they will still be able to install any apps. maybe except when they have installed the official google suite, but that's always a user choice in the popular android rom world, none of these preinstall it, and microg users are not affected

[–] yistdaj@pawb.social 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

What stops those open source projects having that same rugpull? AOSP was open source and for a long time could be installed on one's phone indefinitely.

You could argue ownership, but if Audacity can be bought then so can nearly anything.

[–] notfromhere@lemmy.ml 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I’m out of the loop, what’s that about Audacity? Looks like they still have a github repo with very recent activity and Wikipedia says their trademark was acquired by a company in 2021.

[–] yistdaj@pawb.social 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

As far as I remember, Audacity's maintainers, previously just some volunteers with no organisation, decided to sell the ownership of the project to a company with some guitar platform. Nothing changed at first, they employed the maintainers to work on the same project they were already working on.

Then they started adding controversial telemetry and some soft forks appeared. I vaguely also remember hearing that there's some contract that the company owns the source code, so relicensing to a proprietary licence is easy and possible in future. All the new software the company launches is proprietary, and there's signs they want to tie it all together into a single suite.

Nothing majorly bad has happened to Audacity, yet. But decisions are no longer community driven, as shown by the telemetry drama. I fear it's a matter of time.

[–] yistdaj@pawb.social 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

I should probably add: if it becomes proprietary, the remaining soft fork will likely die. Turns out very few people have the technical knowledge for Audacity.

If you want to read the telemetry controversy/drama, I found this one I'd read years ago: https://github.com/audacity/audacity/pull/835

I remember feeling a bit bad for the maintainers. There's a lot of complaining for a minor and optional change, but at the same time it's interesting that they added telemetry anyway. (Not unmodified however)

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Best part: the better names in the alt os and device scenes don't sell in us markets.

Unless you do the legwork of flashing your own device, most of us are out of luck.

I just love a good market stranglehold.

[–] Tiger_Man_@szmer.info 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Would this be possible to bypass by bulding an app from source and convincing android that you are a developer who is testing his program?

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

theoretically installing through ADB will still work. but that's very impractical, and f-droid cannot do that.

[–] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Theoretically, google could keep that workaround in the code, yes.

Tap for spoilerPractically it will be gone in 3...2...1....

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