this post was submitted on 24 Sep 2025
286 points (95.5% liked)

Privacy

42158 readers
683 users here now

A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.

Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.

In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.

Some Rules

Related communities

much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Saw this in my adguard home query logs.

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

Try to disable telemetry.

[–] dangrousperson@feddit.org 57 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

From Wiki:

Brave Software was founded in 2015 by Brendan Eich, creator of JavaScript and former Mozilla CEO who left the organization after coming under fire for his support of eliminating the right of same-sex couples to marry [...]

and

In August 2016, the company had received at least US$7 million in angel investments from venture capital firms, including Peter Thiel's Founders Fund [...]

Should tell you everything you need to know.

I'd say being 'privacy focused' is just a stick to get non-tech savy/gullible people that want to protect their privacy to use it, without thinking about it twice. Personally, I believe there is 0% chance they don't sell (or simply give) all data they can to Peter Thiel and Palantir.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 17 points 4 days ago

....also to Facebook, also one of the investors. Brave has good privacy protections, but they are selective.

[–] simpolomeo@piefed.blahaj.zone 245 points 5 days ago (1 children)

the crypto browser? it's not private and never was

[–] Scavenger8294@feddit.org 8 points 4 days ago

better than stock chrome or edge. Not better than Mullvad Browser.

[–] Blackfeathr@lemmy.world 146 points 5 days ago (4 children)

That's the lie they try to sell you.

I swear Brave ran a very successful guerrilla marketing campaign and it succeeded on Reddit. If you so much as question it or suggest an alternative, you get dogpiled on by Brave bros. I don't trust it one bit. I'll stick to FF and its forks.

[–] barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 46 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, haven't they done a ton of shady shit? I always cringe when people recommend the Brave browser. It's like recommending a free VPN.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 41 points 5 days ago

Brave is a protection racket wrapped in a cryptocurrency scam, created by a bigoted fuckwit. It is fractally shit.

[–] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 29 points 5 days ago

Apparently Brave's got some cryptocurrency components, so I guess that's where the cult-like following is.

[–] hietsu@sopuli.xyz 9 points 4 days ago

Exactly. Same with Opera GX whatever, which is just a weird chinese spying chrome, with nothing to do with Opera from the good old days when it was still Norwegian (Vivaldi is made by those guys still).

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] BCBoy911@lemmy.ca 100 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

Just use Firefox for gods sakes, Brave is a complete joke of a browser especially when it comes to privacy.

Yeah, doing any kind of digging into Brave will immediately send up warning flares that the privacy claims are pure fluff. Just use Firefox or Librewolf.

[–] donalonzo@lemmy.world 32 points 5 days ago

Firefox is great. Librewolf if you're extra keen on privacy.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] SwooshBakery624@programming.dev 154 points 5 days ago

Why I recommend against Brave - Luca Bramè.

This article is a pretty good breakdown of why you shouldn't use Brave.

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 64 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] irmadlad@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago (10 children)

I've never really had a comfortable feeling about Brave. I have no substantiating evidence, it just seems a bit squirrely. Besides the Tor browser, LibreWolf, Waterfox, and FireFox are the only acceptable browsers as far as I'm concerned, tho I don't come down on those seeking an alternative to Google Chrome.

[–] erock@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Librefox has been awesome. Once you get the hang of enabling cookies for specific sites it mostly just works. Although Fastmail keeps logging me out for some reason

load more comments (9 replies)
[–] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 46 points 4 days ago

no, brave is just another crypto scam

[–] mariusafa@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 4 days ago

Brave is like the ExpressVPN of browsers

[–] FacelessOnes@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago
[–] 0xtero@beehaw.org 78 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Brave (the company) has a long history of doing dodgy stuff. They are just trying to do what Google did (directing clicks to their own shit), but they're using privacy as their marketing spiel.

[–] Core_of_Arden@lemmy.ml 26 points 4 days ago (1 children)

People sadly believe so. Firefox, a few addons and you are good to go.

[–] FuckBigTech347@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 4 days ago

It boggles my mind how people still recommend Brave as a good browser for privacy.
The entire point of Brave from the beginning was their own Crypto currency that they wanted to shill.
In their early days they offered a bunch of Tech YouTubers some crypto (via affiliate links) in return for them shilling brave.

Brave is basically just yet another Chromium reskin with custom branding, extra tracking and crypto bullshit bolted to it.
No, the builtin AdBlocker does not make it "worth it". Stop recommending this pile of crap.

[–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 66 points 5 days ago (8 children)
load more comments (8 replies)
[–] irotsoma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No. At least not in the way most people expect.

It does block some tracking and ads that Chrome alone allows or explicitly adds. But it simply shifts that tracking to Brave. The idea was that you'd still get the benefits of that tracking by giving all of your data to Brave instead. I honestly never was convinced by this considering your data is still being sold, just by a different company so it doesn't sound much better to me. Supposedly, according to them, Brave is more trustworthy and gives you more control over what they track and sell, but I don't trust that business model. There's no real incentive for them to do what they said they would.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 28 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Isn't Brave just a crypto scam? I have no clue why people trust it so much

[–] BCBoy911@lemmy.ca 27 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

It gets pushed often by reactionaries as an "anti-woke" browser LOL its a complete piece of shit. It's got crypto, tracking, NFTs, AI and ads baked in. Literally everything I hate about the tech industry rolled up into one package. I'd rather use Chrome, even.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] kepix@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago

even tho most low level searches and recommendations gonna point towards brave as the private browser, all you need to just look at the options. its datafarming, its running in the background randomly, its an nftbro chrome.

[–] wolfiedafloof@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

I tend to recommend Brave for the ones who aren't technically savvy. For that, its good.

For me who is really into privacy, I've always felt uncomfortable with brave or any chrome based browser. So I go with TOR and LibreWolf

[–] Melody@lemmy.one 20 points 5 days ago

No.

It sold out on it's privacy promise years ago. Brave Browser CANNOT be trusted if you are someone who must ensure Privacy Preserving featurs must remain on at all times.

I recommend the Tor Browser. DO NOT USE THE TOR BROWSING CAPABILITIES OF BRAVE! YOU WILL BE DEANONYMIZED! Likely anything you'd be using Tor for, you don't want your browser slipping up and leaking anything.

Personally I use a blend of hand-hardened Firefox (Via plugins), Librewolf and Ungoogled Chromium (for very rare cases where the site is actually trusted and requires Chrome to function predictably)

[–] NinjaTurtle@feddit.online 15 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Don't a lot of browsers by default have pings set up to track usage? Check the privacy section. There is usually a check box about sending daily pings to whatever company made the browser to track usage.

Not sure about the variations though

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] url@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Librefox then? Or what are you guys using?

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] that_leaflet@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It’s more private but doesn’t have 0 telemetry. You can disable some telemetry in settings. But it still has to make requests for update checks if using Windows or MacOS.

[–] BaroqueInMind@piefed.social 17 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I'm a grown adult and can check for updates my own damn self. This phone-home telemetry in the guise of updating bullshit needs to stop

[–] Junkers_Klunker@feddit.dk 34 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Then use an actual private browser and not some techbro cryptobrowser.

load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments (3 replies)
[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I use Vivaldi, it's IMHO the only decent Chromium browser, apart European, with a good privacy, no logs, no tracking no third party investors. great services and community.

[–] mugita_sokiovt@discuss.online 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I think Vivaldi is source-available, but it's proprietary otherwise due to a BSD license that allows for source-availability.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] WilliamA@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 4 days ago
[–] artyom@piefed.social 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You can disable this in the settings. Nobara ships with Brave now but with all of the telemetry and crypto BS turned off out of the box.

[–] dajoho@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 days ago (2 children)

It's a shame this is necessary, to be honest. It's the same argument with Windows users: "you can just run a debloater and fiddle with the registry to disable tracking". It shouldn't be needed in the first place.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] goatmeal@midwest.social 10 points 5 days ago

Idk what the first two are, but you should be able to disable the usage ping at the bottom of privacy settings

load more comments
view more: next ›