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[–] Alloi@lemmy.world 11 points 21 hours ago

you know how easy it is to circumvent this?

relatively easy, its relatively easy. now you know.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 62 points 1 day ago

Luckily we have open source firmware and we can build our own printers.

Most ghost guns are not 3D printed so this is nothing but security theater and an invasion of privacy.

[–] kayzeekayzee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Given the diy-nature of almost every 3d printer, I can't see this being very useful for identifying prints.

[–] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Exactly my thoughts. I got my machine in 2017 and have replaced enough parts to make a ship of Theseus argument. Most of them weren't even due to wear, I just like rebuilding her. On top of that, every other printer I know is either all diy or kit built. I can't imagine this will stop anyone who genuinely wants to do harm.

[–] zipsglacier@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Here's the paper where they explain it. Basically, they make subtle fluctuations in layer height, adding or subtracting small amounts that are not visible to the naked eye, to encode 0s and 1s. So, maybe in principle this could run at the firmware level on your printer. Then, someone can use a microscope to read off the code from pieces of the printed part.

I would have some doubts about how reliable this is, given the relatively large tolerances in fdm printing, but they have a section about that in the paper, so I guess they at least have thought about it.

[–] B0rax@feddit.org 18 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Fluctuations in layer height that are not visible? Dude, most printers are not even able to achieve a layer height consistency that would be invisible to the naked eye if they wanted to.

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 hours ago

Plus what about adaptive layer heights that automatically change based on the features of each layer?

[–] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 14 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

This has to be borderline useless as a positive identification tool, given that people can...

  1. Make their own models
  2. Run open source slicing software
  3. Inspect their own gcode
  4. Print from flashcard on a 100% offline printer with known clean firmware, such as the most common Ender 3.

How about they just focus on other methods of apprehending violent criminals and leave hobbyists alone.

[–] zipsglacier@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago

This is right, for as long as the fdm printer hobbyists can avoid the lockdown and enshittification that some printer brands are definitely pushing. The value of this paper, for it's authors, seems more like a proof of concept: fingerprinting is possible. And I think that's actually it's same value for hobbyists: the problems with a closed system and proprietary printer firmware are not hypothetical.

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

So when I turn on variable layer height this whole thing goes out the window. Or if I post process and sand the parts. Oh I know what if I use a slicer and firmware like klipper to bypass everything. No 3d printer that isn't locked down already by closed ecosystem will never have this "code" in the parts.

[–] Decq@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sand paper wouldn't really help. They could just cut a part in half. But yeah no way in hell this will ever end up in any of the open source printer firmwares. So it's a moot point.

[–] zipsglacier@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The fact that this could only work in 100% locked down ecosystems was my thought too. About cutting the part up, that seems to be what this particular paper is most proud of: they did a bunch of math to make some codes that they could still figure out even when they were cut into pieces and mixed up---like if a person broke their printed part after using it. Sort of like error-correcting codes I guess, but able to be reassembled from fragments.

[–] golgorath@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why would you cut it into pieces. Just burn it i'd say...