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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 244 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

We need an archive link to this from this guy OR someone else verifying that this is true. I tried to find it, but couldn't. I'll give everyone a half an hour.

Edit: Thanks for everyone doing so much research. The crazy thing is, when you go to @DavidShuster, the comment doesn't show up at all and it looks the account hasn't been active for a year or so. But then RedJard linked and archived the original. LillyPip confirmed that it is his account.

[–] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 117 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I assume you mean proof as to the claims.
But just in case if you mean the tweet being made and made by that account, it is still up and I made an archived version of it.

The account claims to be

journalist [...] TYT.com Rebel HQ. Previously anchored for MSNBC + AJAM

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 83 points 4 days ago (4 children)

I'm going to leave this up and let you all decide if this is true or not. He hasn't been confirmed as this journalist, but x is a POS organization, so everyone gets to decide for themselves.

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[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 56 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (20 children)

I now spent close to an hour trying to figure out Robinson's political leanings, and as of right now the internet simply does not know.

This is the closest:

A public records database shows Robinson’s family resides in Washington, Utah, where Trump garnered support from 75% of voters in the 2024 presidential election. Robinson’s parents have Republican listed as their party affiliation, said public voter registration information, and they are considered active voters (each cast ballots in the 2024 election that gave Trump a second presidency).

Public records also indicated Robinson registered as a voter in Utah in July 2021 but was considered inactive and did not declare an affiliation to any party when he registered.

And then there's a lot of talk about bullet engravings which leave me very confused. How can you engrave "If you're reading this you're gay" - 26 characters onto a single bullet? Even so, the messaging is open to interpretation. We simply do not know yet, and we might never know 100%! He's conflicted, that much seems clear.

IMHO most timely and objective article as of right now: LA Times

edit: I wrote this 24h ago. Surely the situation has changed by now. See you in a more timely thread!

[–] BigPotato@lemmy.world 33 points 4 days ago (2 children)

30.06 is a large bullet and the words were allegedly written on the cases of the bullets, not the rounds themselves. Good to be skeptical but a fine point Sharpie could get 26 characters on there if you had small handwriting or did multiple lines or whatever.

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[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 344 points 5 days ago (2 children)
[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 140 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (13 children)

Didn't Spencer Cox even say that he is shattered that the shooter was "one of us" (read: white male) and not an immigrant? Like on TV, not in a cocaine-fueled xitter rant post.

Edit: Found it

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 81 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What a pathetic excuse for an elected leader. Almost crying because the shooter was "one of them" and not their fake "enemy".

[–] Kellenved@sh.itjust.works 52 points 4 days ago (2 children)

“Where is my straw man I ordered off Amazon?”

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[–] ltxrtquq@lemmy.ml 64 points 4 days ago (4 children)

The investigation is ongoing, but I want to make it crystal clear right now to whoever did this. We will find you. We will try you and we will hold you accountable to the furthest extent of the law. And I just want to remind people that we still have the death penalty here in the state of Utah.

We can return violence with violence, we can return hate with hate. And that's the problem with political violence, is it metastasizes. Because we can always point the finger at the other side. And at some point, we have to find an off ramp, or it's going to get much much worse.

Incredible the difference a day can make.

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[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 41 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I will never be able to get over how this frightened, insecure 11 year old in an adult costume presents himself on camera:

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[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 84 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

Not cancelled, delayed. The screeches about this being a left wing plot going back decades haven't gotten rolling yet. The far right's civil war will be back on by suppertime.

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[–] y0kai@anarchist.nexus 122 points 5 days ago (21 children)

is there a real source for this or just some twitter guy?

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 93 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Some Twitter guy has multiple awards for journalism, I'm inclined to give him some benefit. But I would like someone to provide an official statement.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 78 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Citations or GTFO because we should always check for sources especially in this day and age, awards or not.

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 59 points 4 days ago

You're not wrong. Just highlighting he at least has some credibility beyond the average xitter poster.

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[–] potoo22@lemmy.world 61 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

It's just speculation. No real motive has been determined. https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2025-09-12/what-we-know-about-the-suspected-killer-of-charlie-kirk

LA Times wrote this less than 15 minutes ago:

Investigators are still looking through evidence and trying to determine a motive in the slaying.

The only things in writing are the words etched into the bullets, and those are mixed. He wrote an anti-fascist statement on a bullet casing and other text on others, but nothing to indicate he had liberal or conservative ideologies. If anything, he appeared to be mostly mad at the whole system.

[–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 67 points 4 days ago

Honestly with this administration, I have a difficult time believing any evidence they provide. The head of the FBI is a fucking podcaster who was able to lie profusely to the point that he caught Trump's attention. That must take a lot of lying.

[–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 56 points 4 days ago (11 children)

He wrote an anti-fascist statement on a bullet casing

No, he wrote Helldiver's 2 and groyper memes.

Hey, fascist! Catch! ↑ → ↓↓↓

Is for this: https://helldivers.wiki.gg/wiki/Eagle_500kg_Bomb

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[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 77 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Call me cynical, but I'm convinced that the MAGA mouthpieces all knew full well from the start that the balance of probability was that it would be one of their own.

They knew they'd have maybe 48 hours max to flood all outlets and social media with stories of it being a suspected trans activist, so that by the time the truth came out the story would already be old news and people would be fatigued and just remember that there was some uncertainty over his motives.

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[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 85 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Wtf is a groyper? Stop making up words. I can't keep up with this shit.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 118 points 4 days ago (7 children)

They are a neonazi christian nationalist group led by Nick Fuentes, who was known to have a long-standing feud with Charlie Kirk. To give it more context, these people are so far right that they view Charlie Kirk as liberal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groypers

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[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 30 points 4 days ago

I had to look “groyper” up too.

I think I’ve hit that point in aging where I just have to embrace being that antique family member and start asking my kids, nieces, and nephews what the slang means as new words get rolled out.

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[–] FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world 103 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Not conservative enough? Jesus Christ, who does he want? Satan himself?

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 93 points 5 days ago (5 children)

No, Nick Fuentes. Satan is way less far right

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 71 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Nazism.

They want a return to Nazism.

Nick Fuentes is where the path Charlie Kirk paved leads.

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[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 44 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Satan is pretty liberal, I mean he didn't subscribe to authoritarian God, he's cool with anyone's sexuality or gender. He's not the one send people to hell because they broke a rule... He was sent there too.

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[–] Bonus@sh.itjust.works 48 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Satan's not conservative enough either.

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[–] 30p87@feddit.org 81 points 5 days ago

Funny how the two main shots at fascists were done by fascists. Yes, we're obviously the dangerous party here🤡

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 51 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] madjo@feddit.nl 25 points 4 days ago (5 children)

A very deep sigh of relief was uttered by me, but then turned into a groan of frustration, because all those right wing nutcases who were calling for the heads of all leftists are now again demanding sympathy. Fuck them.

[–] Stamau123@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago (5 children)

remember, Charlie Kirk did not believe in empathy, so fulfill his wishes and do not have any for him

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[–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 62 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Groyper vs TPUSA Gang violence.

Charlie Kirk's last words: "Count or not counting gang violence."

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Where are the actual sources of this information? Are there police interview transcripts available somewhere? Are there reports about a transcript from reputable sources? So far all I've seen is wild speculation by untrusted sources.

As of now, all I actually know about this guy is that he shot charlie kirk.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Besides some rumors and claims that he police officers would already have confirmed themselves by now, there is nothing to suggest he is. The closest I've seen are the claims that he was "deep Groyper signalling" with the bullet case inscriptions, but that's just grasping at straws.

I suspect his Discord gamer group may have been more involved in shaping his ideology, specially if he was giving details on how he towel wrapped his rifle there. Unfortunately, Discord nuked it and now we have to rely on the (in)competence of the Trump appointed authorities and their heavy political baggage.

The fact is that is you have a group that fetishizes guns and fetishizes using them and the tactical encounters with them using a "second amendment" "it's there to act against the oppressor" ideology, you are going to get shooters. Why obsess about what the spark or the trigger was? The Groypers are basically The Army of the 12 Monkeys in this scenario.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

r/conservative is really trying to paint him as a transperson associate.

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[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 45 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

The left's refusal to pull itself up by the bootstraps and do its own assassinations continues

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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 35 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (11 children)

Some really mind bending shit on r/conservative right now. Apparently the guardian posted and retracted some horseshit from a liar claiming to know Robinson and that he was a leftist. Conveniently none of the conservative dipshits noticed the retraction at the top:

Editor’s note: This article was updated on 12 September 2025 to remove quotes after the verified source who attended high school with Tyler Robinson said after publication that they could not accurately remember details of their relationship

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/12/suspect-charlie-kirk-shooting

At least I'm assuming the editor's note means they removed the quotes the conservatives posted. Either that or they posted a fake screenshot.

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[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago (2 children)

..... Am i the only one who was hoping to find out what the hell a "groyper" is somewhere in this thread? Sounds like something I don't want in my search history.

[–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 26 points 4 days ago

The Google search data blew up about that topic.

It's a right-wing group by Nick Fuentes. A combination of edge lord shit and believing the the right isn't pushing even harder.

They loved Trump until they didn't. And honestly, it's kind of ironic watching Frankestein's monster go wild.

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[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 24 points 4 days ago

I fucking knew it! I said it before that he was going to be killed by a far right jackass because he wasn't far right enough!

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