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Charlie Kirk's murder is a shock to me and prior to that I really have not thought about him for months (he apparently shared a stage with Hassan piker), of course the south Park parody.

I have ran into a few of Kirk's supporters and apparently his legacy is his family and his apparently endless college debates that get rephrased as "debated an entire generation" and governors.

To me, it seems like Kirk was just a content creator.

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[โ€“] Witchfire@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

His legacy is rabid 2a support at any cost, calling empathy a fake word, extreme transphobia and racism, sympathising with Nazis and school shooters, and getting Fatalitied like a Mortal Kombat character

being a gender neutral toilet

[โ€“] kogasa@programming.dev 17 points 1 day ago

Smarmy grifter who caused irreparable and immeasurable harm

Tiny face guy

[โ€“] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago

A very strong reminder to all mid level right wing mouth pieces that they are all expendable. That they can be sent to the public to sow devision but not have the protection from the dangers they create .... or at the most extreme be martyred by their own followers and leaders to push their agenda.

I'll never trust America to tell me the truth about any major public event like this .... this is the same country that murdered their own president for their dumb right wing agenda and got away with it.

[โ€“] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago
[โ€“] oxjox@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think the reason why this may be something you're wondering about is because we have given podcasters a larger influence in recent years. Not to say that's bad, but it's new.

Personally, I don't consider podcasters or YouTubers, etc., trustworthy sources of information or honest dialog. I'm not sure that's something that even exists anyway now.

There's a much larger conversation to be had about where we spend our time and give our attention and why. The real news is boring so we turn to salacious clickbait that we often know has a bias to it. The more time we hand our emotions over to this content, then more it becomes part of our psyche. Sometimes we don't have a choice but I still know a ton of people who are entirely clueless about politics. So, some people are making choices, for better or worse.

I see Kirk's legacy the same as Rogan's and Trump's. These people are a reflection of our times. Something is very wrong in our world today and we've spent the last twenty five years shifting, metaphorically, from CBS Evening News to The National Enquirer.

This is the result of great freedom: a wild storm of ideas with equal opportunity to be expressed and heard. Not something that existed before the internet or having instant world wide communications in your hand or selling your information in order to maintain your attention with biased (mis/dis)information.

[โ€“] franzfurdinand@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you take podcasts as the zines of yore, their place in culture makes a decent bit of sense.

[โ€“] oxjox@lemmy.ml 0 points 23 hours ago

If zines were delivered directly to all of humanity instantaneously and were an actual money maker financed by mega corporations, sure.

I've been getting my news from secular talk and Hassan piker. One is YouTube news the other is twitch streamer. Kyle did get me conspiracies about 3 man job of Kirk's shooting

I fear it will the shooter's legacy that we will all remember the name. He may have otherwise continued his life as a weird, argumentative footnote in history. Now he will be a vessel of martyrdom that will fill itself with content poured in by those who instrumentalize his unfortunate death.

[โ€“] mugita_sokiovt@discuss.online -3 points 23 hours ago

Charlie Kirk, a Zionist and Jesuit-aligned political commentator and advocate, was well known for engaging in Socratic debate. He was the founder of Turning Point USA (which is actually a Zionist and Jesuit front org, before Charlie started to turn anti-Zionist) at the age of 18, so it was known the Jesuit Order of the Society of Jesus who would use him, and then dump him once he broke the Vow of Silence (this is a Jesuit thing, and Zionists are some of the worst Jesuit-aligned people you'll meet) about what was happening in Israel, and he was just getting started with that before he was shot, likely murdered at the hands of Mossad and the Vatican.

I had done some numerology on it with my producer to confirm some of it.

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