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[–] svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 hours ago

Can't wait for the UK, Germany, and France Song Contest. I bet France still gives us nul points. /j

[–] nuko147@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Dear god, just take some sanctions like you did with Russia.

[–] Dremor@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

There are already sanctions (violent settlers got their asset frozen, and are forbidden to fly to many countries). Problem is that they take that as a badge of honor, and they don't have enough outside assets to really be a problem to them.

[–] nuko147@lemmy.world 1 points 21 minutes ago

Hunting the peasants instead of their bosses is on the same level as the Eurovision blockade to me.

[–] m33@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Good. Good. If enough countries retire we may have a chance to win.

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 hours ago

I don't know where you're from, but with a statement like that I can tell it isn't Ireland or Sweden. Those guys have had their share.

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 hours ago

Oh we did? Fucking nice! Many people didn't want to touch this, but I'm glad it went through anyway!

[–] Resol@lemmy.world 22 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Countries are finally speaking up about this, I've been waiting for like, 2 years already.

Israel has undeniably brought the contest into disrepute twice in a row with them sending basically political entries with shady ad campaigns that made a select few voters disproportionately vote for Israel, causing them to spike up in the ranking (almost winning the 2025 contest; JJ is our savior), and yet the EBU just doesn't even care about this? And when Russia did the whole "let's take all of Ukraine" move, it took 10 countries to immediately speak up for them to get suspended. Ukraine won that year btw. Like... if the EBU are gonna keep saying the Eurovision Song Contest is "apolitical", then they have to accept the harsh reality that making your participants be countries immediately makes it otherwise. And this is not the exception, it's the norm. Both the Olympic Games and the FIFA World Cup have had similar disrepute incidents in the past, most notably with apartheid South Africa.

Either way, if more countries drop out due to Israel's continued participate, that could ultimately result in enough awareness for the EBU to finally kick them out for good. Otherwise, the only solution is the privatization of their broadcaster, which literally nobody wants.

And FIFA and the IOC are repeating the same errors in 2026 and 2028

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Also the commentator in the Israeli live broadcast called every artist who had called the war a genocide an anti-Semite on live tv. Yeah if the EBU wants their contest to stay apolitical than they need to ban the Israeli broadcaster for the commentator’s toxic comments.

[–] Resol@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

This year in 2025, they even made fun of the Armenians. I can't remember exactly what they said, but it was definitely something along the lines of "I can't believe we gave these guys a quarter in Jerusalem"

I have ultimately lost faith in these commentators. So much for being an "independent reporter", EBU. I mean yeah, they're facing the threat of privatization, but for now they're public and state-owned, so there's literally no excuses here.

[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 25 points 17 hours ago

They should really say that they will pull out of the show if israel and the zionists are allowed to sponsor the show through Moroccanoil and Estee Lauder.

THAT would hurt.

[–] Localhorst86@feddit.org 156 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (3 children)

So that's how many members already? ~~-4-~~ 5?

-Spain
-Ireland
-Slovenia
-Netherlands
-Iceland

Hope there will be more.

[–] pathief@lemmy.world 14 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

I feel ashamed that my country is not on this list.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 9 points 6 hours ago

Same, with even our ministry of the sports that said that "the Gaza operation is not as aggressive, not as bloody as the Russian invasion of Ukraine to justify banning Israel from the Olympics". WTF did you smoke?

[–] Hanrahan@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

As an Australian, same here.

That said its bemused me as to why we're even there.

[–] pathief@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

I was told the show is very popular in Australia, is that true?

I don't really mind the contestants outside Europe, I think it's pretty cool they invited Australia if Australians are indeed fans of the show.

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[–] lena@gregtech.eu 37 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Slovenia has been up to some good stuff recently, first they imposed an arms embargo on israel, now this. I'm proud of my little country

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 6 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Didn't we say that we are not considering participation because organizer doesn't listen to us and not because of Israel? Anyway, waiting years for this realization is lame. Better late than never but still... Take note that many Slovene universities and other institutions still ~~merely~~merrily collaborate with Israel, also we have bo problems hosting Israeli national sport teams and even use police to avoid protests and so on. And that arms embargo, Slovenia doesn't even know what transits through. We also don't want anything with lawsuits against genocide. Yes, it's a step or two in the right direction but far away from something big.

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[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 55 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Add Iceland to the list too

[–] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 73 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

Why is israel, a country in the middle east, a part of Eurovision to begin with? Very telling.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

It is filled with European colonists.

[–] excral@feddit.org 48 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Because they are part of the European Broadcast Union (EBU), just like other non-European countries including Egypt, Morocco, Tunisia and Georgia. That said, just like Russia, their membership should be suspended.

I'm completely fine with non-European countries participating. Australia (the one with the kangaroos) isn't even an EBU member, but has been participating in the Eurovision for the last ten years and I think it's great to see the world grow closer like that.

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

Is there a different Australia or were you just making it clear it wasn't a typo for Austria?

[–] Resol@lemmy.world 7 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Tunisia and Lebanon tried to participate in 1977 and 2005 respectively (the latter even selected Aline Lahoud as their representative), but their participations were ultimately thrown out the window once they found out that Israel was there.

Morocco actually did participate in 1980, when Israel left after literally winning the second year in a row. Morocco never returned, even after recognizing Israel, and even in the later years when Israel was absent.

Algeria, Libya, Egypt, Jordan, Iraq, and the Vatican City all can participate since they have broadcasters that are a part of the EBU, but they choose not to, mostly due to Israel participating, which half of these countries don't recognize. Also who would the Vatican even send to Eurovision, one of their Cardinals? Oh yeah, Kazakhstan, an EBU associate, even participated in Junior Eurovision, but never in the adult contest. They are in the running for a special invitation though, whether it actually happens is something only time will tell.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Also who would the Vatican even send to Eurovision

There was a nun who won The Voice

(But since that, she renounced her vows to focus on her musical career)

[–] Resol@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Guess I was such a clueless idiot.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Didn't the last Pope have a rock album?

[–] Resol@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Yeah. But I bet the EBU's gonna be like "you can't send your leader, that's political".

Though, EBU's bullshit statements aside, I kinda wonder what fire music will be unleashed by Pope Leo.

[–] nshibj@lemmy.world 31 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

It's a nonsense joke. Australia is also there. Just kill Eurovision and call it something else for fucks sake

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[–] nickhammes@lemmy.world 17 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Australia, Armenia, and Morocco are all outside of Europe, and have completed too. Basically all European countries are eligible, plus those whose public broadcasters are part of the European Broadcasting Union.

[–] Resol@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Armenia being outside of Europe is still kinda debatable if you ask me.

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[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 137 points 1 day ago (11 children)

As shit as the European song contest is, i hope everyone does the same and only israel will vompete with no one.

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 71 points 1 day ago

Ireland announced yesterday that they will.

[–] PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world 59 points 1 day ago

Slovenia was first 🙂, but I think they weren't definitive about it. Probably they wanted to wait so they wouldn't be the only one.

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 45 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Israel gets kicked out way before that. They have a population of 10million. Spain and the Netherlands are much larger then that. More viewers = more money

[–] VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 1 day ago (1 children)

An Israeli company has been the main sponsor the past few years.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 19 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

You can easily replace a sponsor. Or better yet, dont! The shows didn't have a sponsor 10 years ago. Ads are ruining everything

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[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe, but Israel has unlimited funds to throw at PR thanks to the USA, so I'm not sure population is going to be a deciding factor there.

[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 6 points 14 hours ago

That's treading dangerously close to a specific kind of conspiracy theory there.

The EBU has pretty strong financial ties to Israel, not least of which their main sponsor Moroccan Oil. But at the end of the day you can count on the ghouls in charge to always find the coward's way out and follow the money. It's the exact same pattern of behavior they had with Russia in 2022, which they initially allowed to compete before backpedalling.

Pretending that this is an issue solely because of some conspiracy is not only baseless, but it also unfairly lets most European broadcasters off the hook for refusing to uphold the set the same hard lines with Israel that they set with Russia. Israel competed because European broadcasters were happy enough to include Israel. Simple as.

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[–] coyootje@lemmy.world 90 points 1 day ago

As a Dutch person, I'm very glad we've made this decision. After reading about Ireland doing the same I didn't think we would but I'm glad that we did and also that we've decided on this somewhat early instead of waiting to see what the "bigger" countries are doing like we usually do with these things.

[–] DreamAccountant@lemmy.world 39 points 23 hours ago (7 children)

It very important to note that Israel is NOT part of Europe. It's in the Middle East, which is in ASIA.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 42 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia. Heck, Australia.. If these are Europe, then so is Israel.

That said, I don't think we should exclude Israel from participating in Eurovision on a geographic basis. We should exclude them instead because they are an ethnofascist apartheid colony that's committing genocide on its population.

[–] python@lemmy.world 10 points 18 hours ago

They were also very clearly rigging the votes in the last Eurovision by having an online campaign aimed at making people vote for them (advertising like that is forbidden by Eurovision rules)

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