Can't wait for the UK, Germany, and France Song Contest. I bet France still gives us nul points. /j
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Dear god, just take some sanctions like you did with Russia.
There are already sanctions (violent settlers got their asset frozen, and are forbidden to fly to many countries). Problem is that they take that as a badge of honor, and they don't have enough outside assets to really be a problem to them.
Oh we did? Fucking nice! Many people didn't want to touch this, but I'm glad it went through anyway!
Good. Good. If enough countries retire we may have a chance to win.
I don't know where you're from, but with a statement like that I can tell it isn't Ireland or Sweden. Those guys have had their share.
Countries are finally speaking up about this, I've been waiting for like, 2 years already.
Israel has undeniably brought the contest into disrepute twice in a row with them sending basically political entries with shady ad campaigns that made a select few voters disproportionately vote for Israel, causing them to spike up in the ranking (almost winning the 2025 contest; JJ is our savior), and yet the EBU just doesn't even care about this? And when Russia did the whole "let's take all of Ukraine" move, it took 10 countries to immediately speak up for them to get suspended. Ukraine won that year btw. Like... if the EBU are gonna keep saying the Eurovision Song Contest is "apolitical", then they have to accept the harsh reality that making your participants be countries immediately makes it otherwise. And this is not the exception, it's the norm. Both the Olympic Games and the FIFA World Cup have had similar disrepute incidents in the past, most notably with apartheid South Africa.
Either way, if more countries drop out due to Israel's continued participate, that could ultimately result in enough awareness for the EBU to finally kick them out for good. Otherwise, the only solution is the privatization of their broadcaster, which literally nobody wants.
Also the commentator in the Israeli live broadcast called every artist who had called the war a genocide an anti-Semite on live tv. Yeah if the EBU wants their contest to stay apolitical than they need to ban the Israeli broadcaster for the commentator’s toxic comments.
They should really say that they will pull out of the show if israel and the zionists are allowed to sponsor the show through Moroccanoil and Estee Lauder.
THAT would hurt.
So that's how many members already? ~~-4-~~ 5?
-Spain
-Ireland
-Slovenia
-Netherlands
-Iceland
Hope there will be more.
I feel ashamed that my country is not on this list.
Same, with even our ministry of the sports that said that "the Gaza operation is not as aggressive, not as bloody as the Russian invasion of Ukraine to justify banning Israel from the Olympics". WTF did you smoke?
As an Australian, same here.
That said its bemused me as to why we're even there.
I was told the show is very popular in Australia, is that true?
I don't really mind the contestants outside Europe, I think it's pretty cool they invited Australia if Australians are indeed fans of the show.
it might still come to consider it, don't give up hope, yet.
Slovenia has been up to some good stuff recently, first they imposed an arms embargo on israel, now this. I'm proud of my little country
Didn't we say that we are not considering participation because organizer doesn't listen to us and not because of Israel? Anyway, waiting years for this realization is lame. Better late than never but still... Take note that many Slovene universities and other institutions still ~~merely~~merrily collaborate with Israel, also we have bo problems hosting Israeli national sport teams and even use police to avoid protests and so on. And that arms embargo, Slovenia doesn't even know what transits through. We also don't want anything with lawsuits against genocide. Yes, it's a step or two in the right direction but far away from something big.
Fair point
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Add Iceland to the list too
Why is israel, a country in the middle east, a part of Eurovision to begin with? Very telling.
It is filled with European colonists.
Because they are part of the European Broadcast Union (EBU), just like other non-European countries including Egypt, Morocco, Tunisia and Georgia. That said, just like Russia, their membership should be suspended.
I'm completely fine with non-European countries participating. Australia (the one with the kangaroos) isn't even an EBU member, but has been participating in the Eurovision for the last ten years and I think it's great to see the world grow closer like that.
Is there a different Australia or were you just making it clear it wasn't a typo for Austria?
Tunisia and Lebanon tried to participate in 1977 and 2005 respectively (the latter even selected Aline Lahoud as their representative), but their participations were ultimately thrown out the window once they found out that Israel was there.
Morocco actually did participate in 1980, when Israel left after literally winning the second year in a row. Morocco never returned, even after recognizing Israel, and even in the later years when Israel was absent.
Algeria, Libya, Egypt, Jordan, Iraq, and the Vatican City all can participate since they have broadcasters that are a part of the EBU, but they choose not to, mostly due to Israel participating, which half of these countries don't recognize. Also who would the Vatican even send to Eurovision, one of their Cardinals? Oh yeah, Kazakhstan, an EBU associate, even participated in Junior Eurovision, but never in the adult contest. They are in the running for a special invitation though, whether it actually happens is something only time will tell.
Didn't the last Pope have a rock album?
Also who would the Vatican even send to Eurovision
There was a nun who won The Voice
(But since that, she renounced her vows to focus on her musical career)
It's a nonsense joke. Australia is also there. Just kill Eurovision and call it something else for fucks sake
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Australia, Armenia, and Morocco are all outside of Europe, and have completed too. Basically all European countries are eligible, plus those whose public broadcasters are part of the European Broadcasting Union.
Armenia being outside of Europe is still kinda debatable if you ask me.
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As shit as the European song contest is, i hope everyone does the same and only israel will vompete with no one.
Ireland announced yesterday that they will.
Slovenia was first 🙂, but I think they weren't definitive about it. Probably they wanted to wait so they wouldn't be the only one.
Israel gets kicked out way before that. They have a population of 10million. Spain and the Netherlands are much larger then that. More viewers = more money
An Israeli company has been the main sponsor the past few years.
You can easily replace a sponsor. Or better yet, dont! The shows didn't have a sponsor 10 years ago. Ads are ruining everything
That'd be nice, but they, maroccanoil, have been main sponsor for the last five years, and are confirmed to again be this year. Dunno what the chances are of that changing at this point.
Also - I'm pretty sure they had corporate sponsors 10 years ago. They aren't shown in some countries broadcasts, but they've been there for some time.
Maybe, but Israel has unlimited funds to throw at PR thanks to the USA, so I'm not sure population is going to be a deciding factor there.
That's treading dangerously close to a specific kind of conspiracy theory there.
The EBU has pretty strong financial ties to Israel, not least of which their main sponsor Moroccan Oil. But at the end of the day you can count on the ghouls in charge to always find the coward's way out and follow the money. It's the exact same pattern of behavior they had with Russia in 2022, which they initially allowed to compete before backpedalling.
Pretending that this is an issue solely because of some conspiracy is not only baseless, but it also unfairly lets most European broadcasters off the hook for refusing to uphold the set the same hard lines with Israel that they set with Russia. Israel competed because European broadcasters were happy enough to include Israel. Simple as.
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As a Dutch person, I'm very glad we've made this decision. After reading about Ireland doing the same I didn't think we would but I'm glad that we did and also that we've decided on this somewhat early instead of waiting to see what the "bigger" countries are doing like we usually do with these things.
It very important to note that Israel is NOT part of Europe. It's in the Middle East, which is in ASIA.
Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia. Heck, Australia.. If these are Europe, then so is Israel.
That said, I don't think we should exclude Israel from participating in Eurovision on a geographic basis. We should exclude them instead because they are an ethnofascist apartheid colony that's committing genocide on its population.
They were also very clearly rigging the votes in the last Eurovision by having an online campaign aimed at making people vote for them (advertising like that is forbidden by Eurovision rules)
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Oh wow, AVROTROS (the broadcaster) finally found a spine? Where was this last year after the incident with Joost Klein?
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