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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 95 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I'll be voting for the forgetful, confused old man that isn't a treasonous rapist who says he's going to be a dictator.

[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 46 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I would vote for a dead president before Trump. Literally no president would be better than a fascist seeking to destroy everything and seize power. Lots of stuff about Biden sucks but it's totally irrelevant.

[–] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I would vote for a literal sack of shit over Trump, even if I was forced to smell it up close and personal whenever there was a presidential address. I don't care, that would be preferable to seeing that pathetic excuse for an animal (let alone a human being) be in any place of authority, power, or respect, let alone the US presidency. Fuck.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

This is pretty much where I'm at, except change "Trump" to "literally any Republican." If we're being honest with ourselves, they've been fascist since Goldwater and Nixon and the Southern Strategy (if not since McCarthy), and they all always look out for and support each other as much as they can. No one of them is any better than their worst member, and they've got some bad ones.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

I'm voting for the guy who isn't trying to let my family be turned into target practice for ruzzians. How anyone could remotely be ok with the shit the orange turnip says is insane.

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 66 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Not much of a battle over who's the biggest rapist, seditionist , criminal, liar and malignant narcissist though. Funny how the MSM tries its darnedest to equivocate the two.

[–] oDDmON@lemmy.world 35 points 8 months ago

Funny how the MSM tries its darnedest to equivocate the two.

I’d say the Right Wing Echo Chamber & MSM are mysteriously aligning in many areas. Oh. Wait. Who owns those things? Billionaires.

Move along now. Nothing to see here.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Also, not much of a battle between whose a tiny-dick fascist.

[–] knobbysideup@sh.itjust.works 39 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yes that may be an issue. The bigger issue is leadership vs tyranny. How Trump is even a consideration to run rather than swinging from a tree is terrifically uninspiring.

[–] Ioughttamow@kbin.social 2 points 8 months ago

I’d much rather he spend his remaining days in prison. To go from what he had to prison, with no hope of reprieve would be delicious, even if much too late

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 8 months ago

I can see how team Trump wants this election to be about age. It's the metric that he's on par with Biden. If the election stays far away from substance, moderates/uninformed stay home, because it's all the same.

[–] ClanOfTheOcho@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

Anyone recall how Trump harped on Biden being too old in the last election? And now he's older than Biden was then? It drives me crazy that the demented fool Trump thinks he's a spring chicken relative to Biden, when they're practically the same age. Oh, and all the other things drive me crazy, too. Trump is my 1 star Uber driver to crazy town.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

"But he's too old" is the new "But her emails" It's a media narrative that puts its finger on the scales.

[–] Norgur@kbin.social 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

According to my kid I'm too old, according to my wife I'm too forgetful and according to myself I am constantly and thoroughly confused. Did I win this? Am I a president now?

[–] rynzcycle@kbin.social 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's a coherent argument... so no.

[–] Norgur@kbin.social 2 points 8 months ago
[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

When money does the talking but voters don't even listen

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Money needs to start taking to us. And not in a "goodbye! I'm going away, you'll never see me again!!!" Kind of way

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Money should have no say at all. Ideally a politician with the right ideas and no money should be a thread to any financially backed politician with lobby biased ideas.

[–] DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyz 1 points 8 months ago

Can't it be both?

[–] oDDmON@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

How the fuck did we wind up here, where two completely past-their-expiration-date candidates are supposedly symbols of hope for the nation?

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Would you rather pin your future on the space laser gal?

[–] oDDmON@lemmy.world -2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I’d rather both party apparatuses pull their heads out of their collective asses, worry less about the next election/poll #s/donors/warchests/etc., start paying attention to what we fucking need as a nation and relearn the goddamned art of compromise. /endvent

But I know that’s got an ice cube’s chance in hell.

Oh. No. Would not pin hope on another loon either.

[–] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 8 points 8 months ago

Not worrying about elections is how you lose the ability to actually implement any of those things we need because you don't have any political power.

To use a gratuitous MLK quote:

Power without love is reckless and abusive, and love without power is sentimental and anemic. Power at its best is love implementing the demands of justice, and justice at its best is power correcting everything that stands against love

All the good intentions in the world are meaningless if you don't actually have any power needed to implement those good intentions. There's a balance to be struck somewhere.

[–] Shalakushka@kbin.social 6 points 8 months ago

One party does compromise, over and over.

[–] livus@kbin.social 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This. As a non-American it's really weirding me out. They both seem way too old and doddery. Most people that age are retired.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Remember that in America rich old people like a good 25 years longer than the average person. The elder Bush died at 94 and Jimmy Carter is still going at 99. Meanwhile my blue collar dad and grandpa died at 72 and 68 respectively. The wonders of a for-profit medical system.

[–] livus@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago

@ChonkyOwlbear I myself have relations who lived to over 100.

That doesn't really change the fact that by their late 70s, they were too old to work long hours in demanding jobs. They were elderly retired people for like 30 years.

I don't think that dying in office is the only thing the US should be worried about here. I've seen footage of Biden and Trump, they are old and doddery. I wouldn't put them in charge of anything bigger than a gift shop.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world -2 points 8 months ago

Both sides, both sides, both sides, both sides! Both sides, everybody both sides! Both sides, both sides, hey now both sides, both sides, both fucking sides!

Both sides, both sides, okay now just Chuck fucking Todd: both sides! Both sides, both sides, both sides both sides, Both! Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiideeeeeeeeeesssssssss-uh!!

Yeah! ONE! MORE! TIME! (Repeat)