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[–] MangioneDontMiss@feddit.nl 18 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (3 children)

I get the strong feeling that this shooting was done by a professional.

  • 1 single shot from over two hundred yards away
  • shooter escapes like a ghost, and it doesn't seem like the police have found any evidence he was even there.
  • a separate person seemingly providing a distraction so the shooter can get away and the police just let him go.

Makes me wonder a few things

  • was this a false flag? (seems most likely) - especially when you consider the context of trump wanting to send military into US cities and the Republicans voting against releasing the epstein docs on the same day. This shooting was an absolutely fantastic distraction and could easily be used by trump to promote his usage of military against US cities.
  • was this sponsored by someone
  • was this another country?
  • if the shooter escaped so easily, how likely is it that he does this again somewhere else?
[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago (5 children)

Shooting is a skill you can learn, improve, and build expertise in. You don't need military or agency training, just a place to practice and maybe an instructor. Next, it's hard to locate a single shot, especially when unexpected. There would be echos and conflicting reports from observers under duress.

Occams razor is the shooter was a practiced with good aim, good optics, and a good escape plan(so far). That much has zero requirement for outside assistance.

The United Healthcare shooting was way dirtier in terms of evidence, skill, and plan. It still took them days to find the suspect they wanted to prosecute and that after other suspects were released. They will do a similar manhunt here.

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[–] ALLGLORYTOHYPNOTOAD@lemmy.world 36 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

I highly suspect Trump will get "intel" that the shooter is hiding in a blue American city like New York or Chicago and take it over with the military. I think he will use this to escalate his military take over of cities.

[–] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

Here's my prediction on this escalation.

It will be Seattle. They will cite the Capital Hill Occupied Zone as evidence that the area is a radical leftist stronghold and that the shooter is probably from there and hiding there. They will then use that military influx to target the migrant-rich area for deportation while also oppressing gay rights. This will fuck the local economy and give Trump leverage over Microsoft and Amazon, both of which kick it there and employ hella visa holders. The gay bashing will just be icing on their shitty cake.

Seattle is big enough to make a point, but far enough away from New York and LA that they won't feel directly threatened and abstract enough that the American Middle, primed by previous negative coverage of activism there, will not only accept, but they will also support it.

[–] SippyCup@feddit.nl 4 points 5 hours ago

Charlie Kirk was a false flag.

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[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 13 points 6 hours ago

Rest in piss.

[–] Five@slrpnk.net 30 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

Left-wing streamer Kyle Kulinski says Charlie Kirk was feuding with nazis to his political right before he was killed.

Right-wing Pundit Clayton Morris shares rumor that Charlie Kirk was concerned Israel was going to kill him, and that he was wearing body armor when he was shot.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 18 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

If it turns out it was an Israeli/Nazi joint effort, I will break my ribs from excessive sardonic laughter.

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 hours ago

Even is it was the government will help them cover their tracks. Well never actually know for sure.

[–] Fit_Series_573@lemmy.world 10 points 6 hours ago

Charlie had 8 armed security guards with him. Makes you wonder if that was an increase because of said issues or his usual entourage.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 hours ago

That explains why the state of Israel was in Utah yesterday on Google maps.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 10 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

He who sows the wind shall reap the whirlwind.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 hours ago

Shit birds attract shit storms, Randy.

[–] canajac@lemmy.ca -5 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

So you people are saying it was OK to kill this guy but Luigi killing that CEO or whatever he was, was OK. Something is wrong here and it's kind of scary.

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[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 61 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

I'm somewhat surprised that the Trump Administration went this far to distract from the Epstein files.

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[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 84 points 11 hours ago (6 children)

Interesting reflection of Lemmy demographics that I haven't seen much "But he has a wife and kids, we shouldn't be celebrating his death uwu" rhetoric. Apparently even the most staunch centrists here acknowledge the harm Toiler Paper USA has done to the US populace.

There's some insane laundering of his legacy going on now over on Reddit and through American news outlets though, as if he didn't call Paul Pelosi's attacker a "patriot" or dismiss school shootings as a necessary evil of the 2nd amendment. MSNBC even fired a political analyst over calling him "divisive."

I'm not one of those people who blame every ill of the world on the "neoliberal cucks" or whatever, but damn if they don't have a point regarding the corporate capture of the United States news media currently.

[–] rozodru@piefed.social 8 points 6 hours ago

meh let the babies have their bottles. He said it himself as you posted that shootings are a necessary evil of the 2nd amendment so he went out, as far as I'm concerned, exactly as he would have wanted. He died for his cause so why should I or anyone else care?

One less Nazi.

[–] volvoxvsmarla@sopuli.xyz 6 points 6 hours ago

That's true, there isn't much sadness going around. It reminds me a bit of the reaction to the healthcare CEO shooting.

I remember the take that resonated with me the most was in a piece by Josh Johnson at that time. He first told a story about a friend named Marty that had died from disease. "Brian Thompson was a human being. He was a husband, a father. Ok. So was Marty." It feels the same this time around.

It is sad that a person died. It is sad that kids are now left without a father. But you can simultaneously acknowledge that the person who has died has actively helped to create more people who lost their loved ones. And once you do that, it is hard to hold up the general sympathy.

It's not my thing to celebrate the death of a person. No matter how evil. I cannot wholeheartedly yell out good riddance. But weighing one against the other, I can't force a tear.

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