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Edit: also keep in mind that initial information in these situations can often be inaccurate. Trusted outlets have conflicting reports about whether a suspect has been detained.
Edit 2: the campus has officially stated they release the initial subject. Donald Trump has stated Charlie Kirk is dead.
Photo of the new alleged suspect:
This guy doesn't look like an expert marksman, but I guess looks can be deceiving.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/charlie-kirk-shooting-fbi-appeals-tips-manhunt-continues/story
Cartridges with "transgender and anti-fascist" writing on them were found.
Oh, were they? That's super convenient. Almost thoughtful of the shooter to leave that kind of evidence behind but evade capture.
A lot of people seem to be writing on gun cartridges these days. Kind of a new trend I guess?
Very confused how we ended up here, but started here:
next they find the 'manifesto'
I feel a little afraid anytime I see a post trying to identify the alleged perpetrator, just since the Boston Bombing and reddit.
Not saying you've done so, just that it still worries me I guess.
They left a note saying "this group made me do it, retaliate against them".
"I am an evil leftist, the government should crack down on all dissent immediately."
Its in moments like these that I really appreciate non corporate social media. Everywhere outside the fediverse all I see is people freaking out, acting like this is the first shooting to ever happen in the united states. Even supposed leftists are just like "I don't agree with the man but no one deserves to get killed over their beliefs".
They seem to have forgotten that people get killed over way dumber shit all the time. Personally I care about all the other shootings a lot more than this one. Especially the school shooting in Colorado that happened the same afternoon, which is being mostly ignored.
There are even lots of comments that condemn anyone making light of his death, or even just making comments about his politics. This dissent they condemn is almost nowhere to be found though, because algorithms bury it all straight to the bottom. The only opinion allowed to be seen is "I'm horrified look at me".
Coming back to a place where a real discussion can be had makes me realize just how important this project really is. We need more spaces that we truly own.
Even supposed leftists are just like “I don’t agree with the man but no one deserves to get killed over their beliefs”.
Because corporate social media usually disallows VPNS/Tor and people who use those are probably not using any anonyminization. Its a very bad idea to say "LOL DESERVED IT" since the feds can break down your door.
This why why every left-of-center politician "condemns" it, even if deep inside, they are secretly celebrating it.
This is mentioned in DeathNote (I'm not glorifying any of the characters btw), Light said that in real life, people would always condemn extrajudicial killings because its a social norm/expectation to condem it, but if given anonymity (and without the censorship, of course), they would reveal their true feelings. Hence, Lemmy (for the left), 4chan (for the right). Reddit censored all those comments, which is why you don't see them.
IRL, admitting to enjoying a someone's death (excluding enemy combatants) could land you in involuntary commitment, lands you on top of government watchlists, they could send their goons to harass you. That's why you should never admit to it when on a non-anoynous account, and never say that IRL.
Totally. Fb is an absolutely cesspool right now as is reddit.
its stunning how different the conversations are here as opposed to reddit where everything is so damn censored and controlled.
You know the universe loves irony when Charlie Kirt gets killed in a school shooting.
Whoever the identity of the assassin is, they are clearly a good marksman. According to reports, they made that shot about 600 feet away from the rooftop of a nearby building. While Kirk was stationary most of the time, they landed a clean kill to the jugular with just one bullet and then made a quick getaway. That's Lee Harvey Oswald levels of accuracy. While I wouldn't estimate that the assassin was a hired professional. They likely have seasoned experience with firearms or possibly military or police training.
Lee Harvey Oswald was demoted from sharpshooter to marksman in the U.S. Marines in 1959, with a score of 191, indicating he was not a consistently good shooter by marine standards. However, KGB files from the time of his defection to the Soviet Union described him as a "poor shot" during target practice there, suggesting his marksmanship skills were inconsistent or underdeveloped.
“This is a dark moment for America,”
Every. Fucking. Day.
It really says something about what a POS you are when you get shot dead and everyone's reaction is to point and laugh.
Why TF would you release this news and not include the picture?
didn't know who this guy was, had to look him up. Good riddance.
He can join all those kids that got killed in school shootings ig
My prediction is that another right-wing loon shit him, but even if they find the guy they'll still blame the left the same way they did with the trump shooter.