How can they ban transgender people from something if transgender people don't officially exist?
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A republican shoots up a school and nobody sees any issue with Republican ideology, but the second a trans person does we've gotta take away the guns, right?
Lefties and trans folk, arm up. If you haven't bought your piece yet, start the application process. Once you have it, it becomes almost impossible for them to take it away by force.
I think you mean the only way they'll take it is by force, and they will if they choose to do so. You aren't going to stop a SWAT team (or worse.)
It's not about stopping a specific incident. It's about sowing enough fear in their little piggy hearts that they think twice.
Personally I'm more worried about a caravan of lifted F250s with MAGA flags rolling through my neighborhood but everyones threat model is a little different.
Yep.. well 2nd amendment folks are hypocrites apparently. Shocker.
I don’t think Trump is popular for this. The NRA has already come out publicly they are against this. Rednecks hate trans people but they hate anyone who threatens to take guns away from citizens more it looks like.
Yeah, I had a feeling that would happen.
"First they came for the transgenders' guns, but I didn't speak up because I'm not transgender..."
Dems be like: "I allow it"
Remember: "Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary." -Karl Marx
Armed Minorities are harder to oppress.
Dems are okay with this?
e: I’ll take that as a no
What part if "shall not be infringed" do these fuckers not understand?
Trans people are statistically underrepresented among mass shooters. If we are targeting high risk demographics we should start with white men.
In case anyone's in any doubt about whether there's any factual basis for this:
Mass shooters are not disproportionately transgender, contrary to claims
This CNN article states it well:
Such a move would represent a dramatic escalation of the Trump administration’s fight against the rights of transgender Americans.
That's it. This is just the fascists finding another way to victimize trans people, because they enjoy doing that and it keeps the morons' attention diverted from real problems.
And this bit is also good in the article (warning: disgusting quotes from Trump admin people):
The goal of the potential ban, according to the Justice official, is “to ensure that mentally ill individuals suffering from gender dysphoria are unable to obtain firearms while they are unstable and unwell.”
Because gender dysphoria is included in the American Psychiatric Association’s Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, also called the DSM, it is diagnosed as a mental disorder. (The DSM is the handbook used by health care professionals as the authoritative guide in diagnosing mental disorders.)
But the gender incongruence – having a gender identity that’s not the one assigned at birth – isn’t what makes gender dysphoria a mental disorder. Having clinically significant dysphoria around the incongruence is what makes it a disorder.
That's surprisingly nuanced and well informed for an article on a mainstream news site.
From what I understand, people with mental disorders (e.g. taking anti-anxiety meds) can still own guns. The threshold for being disallowed is if the person has been involuntarily institutionalized. So even if you have some kind of mental health crisis and check yourself in, that's voluntary so it doesn't prohibit you. It sounds hard to fit gender dysphoria into that framework.
OTOH apparently you're prohibited if you've used pot in the past year, so maybe they'll expand that to include vaccinations.
The logical direction this is going is that they want to do something bad and Nazi-ish to trans people. I hope it doesn't go that far, but they're rounding up other people already so people need to be ready for a fight.
And it won't stop at trans people like the "normal gays" seem to think everyone on the LGBTQ+ spectrum should be ready to flee/fight ASAP.
welp, that tears it. time to buy my first gun, while I still can. I'm not a big fan of guns but fuck if I'm going to let myself and my community be disarmed by the fascists. I'm not going quietly if they send us to the camps.
If you do and have not used one before please get training in the proper operation of it. Even if its from a book. Practice until you are comfortable with it. Otherwise you may end up shooting yourself or someone you care about by accident. You should know how it works and how to break down and clean it yourself.
Trans folks, get your guns while you can. They might be the difference between freedom or going to RFK's "wellness" farms. As an autistic who will someday be targeted, I intend to stand on the line of battle with you.
Gun restrictions you say? 🤔 Tell me again how the left-wingers came for your guns.
It makes sense if you don't think about it. Which apparently the DOJ never did.
It's all about creating enemies the ignorant bigots can stand together against.
USA is a disgusting society.
It’s shaping up to declare us all mentally incompetent so that they can institutionalize us. They won’t stop here.
It's a stepping stone. First they'll target trans people, than anyone LGBTQIA+, then minorities, then anyone with liberal views, then anyone who looks weird to them. That was the purpose of that EO dipshit signed a few weeks back directing is admin to explore how to institutionalize anyone deemed mentally incompetent. All they have to do is declare "x group" is mentally ill and then they'll round em all up. It's fucked.
If this is allowed to happen. This will just be the start.
This is going to result in either the left arming themselves in a way that will give them political power comparable to the right.
Or the courts will set a legal precedent for gun control regulations.
While I'm disgusted by the fact that it's a targeted act of persecution, this could be the Trump DOJ setting up a long-term win for the left.
Gun control would not be a win for anyone, especially not on the left.
Liberals love gun control
Leftists do not
Where is the NRA? First trans then unpardoned felons, the homeless, the unemployed poor people. The list goes on. Once in place, adding another group will not be questioned.
The NRA already said they cannot support this and stand against the sweeping ban of firearms.
Per their tweet:
The Second Amendment isn't up for debate.
The NRA supports the Second Amendment rights of all law abiding Americans to purchase, possess and use firearms.
NRA does not, and will not, support any policy proposals that implement sweeping gun bans that arbitrarily strip law-abiding citizens of their Second Amendment rights without due process.
rare NRA W, imo.
I think this kills it. NRA is one of the sacred cows of the Republican party, they don't dare defy them.
You mean the NRA is a golden funnel that received money from Russia to funnel into republican politicians to buy their vote to promote Russian interests.
Protecting trans isn’t really a Russian thing.
Ahah, the US right finally found someone that they don't want armed to the teeth.
good luck with appeasing that extremely important anti 2A anti trans demographic. some say it's the biggest voting block in the world
I hate my life and I hate this world so much, yes this shithole of a country is one of the worst but others are rapidly sliding to this too. Why couldn’t I have just been born a women and never had to deal with all of this
hugs from a fellow trans woman. <3
this sucks. living with transphobia and dysphoria sucks. I can't promise it'll get better. hold your community tight, help them and let them help you. we're all we've got.
It's ok, I have 2
How would this stop them? Couldn't they just use the ~~same gun show/online loopholes~~ (the many way ways to acquire a gun in America)everyone else does?
EDIT: changed the phrasing to more accurately reflect the reality to satisfy people's dependence on nitpicking details at the cost of understanding the actual point.
Probably. I think this is more about providing an excuse for jailing any trans who choose to own a firearm, rather than stopping them