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Nextcloud asked in a poll at https://mastodon.social/@nextcloud@mastodon.xyz/115095096413238457 what database its users are running. Interestingly one fifth replied they don't know. Should people know better where their data is stored, or is it a good thing everything is running so smoothly people don't need to know what their software stack is built upon?

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[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago

Since Nextcloud stores your actually data on the disk, it doesn’t actually matter all that much tbh

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 10 points 4 days ago

Well that's kind of misleading, right? If they didn't set one up, then it's probably SQLite. But if they did set one up, that was years ago, and who cares what it is, if it's working.

[–] sj_zero@lotide.fbxl.net 4 points 3 days ago

I set up everything I use "bare metal" or at least in an lxc container I directly build and maintain, but most people don't. Makes a lot of sense, to be honest. A lot of prepackaged software uses databases and nobody has to care exactly what it's up to.

[–] m33@lemmy.zip 14 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Users is the right word here, not admin, not sysadmin, not owner. Docker pull docker up users that’s it

[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Also just users. No docker or anything, just using the system someone else setup for them.

NextCloud is used everywhere, also in commercial use.

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[–] Horta@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 4 days ago

If some of them are users rather than admins, it makes sense and maybe it's a good sign that they don't have to know in order to use the service.

[–] dude@lemmings.world 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I’ve made a choice a while ago while deploying Nextcloud. Now I don’t care, as I trust myself that I have opted for something reasonable which was hopefully not SQLite

[–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And 46% have no idea what a database is.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 7 points 4 days ago

it's a spreadsheet right?

[–] stratself@lemdro.id 4 points 3 days ago

Should've specifically asked the operators/hosters if they need a better answer. But this has more engagement so

[–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 5 points 4 days ago

I don’t think it matters

You could deploy a container and not know what DB is used

People don't care and/or haven't looked at the serverinfo page. That actually mentions the type of database in use.

So the "I don't know" option was probably just the easiest.

[–] Postimo@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Honestly I think if there is a hope for greater detach from "The Cloud" more broadly, it's a testament to nextcloud that folks that don't even know enough to know what DB they are running are able to run a server, and host things well enough to consider themselves users.

shhhThis statement brought was to you by someone that set up nextcloud and had no clue what DB it was using.

[–] idefix@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 days ago (4 children)

I don't even know myself because I installed it via YunoHost

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[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Who cares.
I'm only on MariaDB because I have brain worms, I have so little data on there SQLite would have been fine. 🪱 🪱 🪱

I use Postgres, because MySQL touched me inappropriately as a kid and MariaDB is too similar. Oh, and also because it's what I use at work.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 days ago

SQLite actually has incredible performance these days. But I get your point :)

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[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 days ago

I can think of few things more boring than databases. I just want my files synced and stored.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

That's because they push the all in one container.

[–] NENathaniel@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Yes that's me. I have no idea what my Nextcloud uses

[–] PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

I think that's really beautiful.

[–] cryptix@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 4 days ago

My instance did required me to fix some db issue after an update(it still works but the fix was recommended*). So I knew I am using mariadb. Its not super smooth sailing.

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