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[–] commiunism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The vast, vast majority of artists do it as a job to survive and not for fun though.

It can certainly be a hobby that is done for fun with no time constraints, where you can just make whatever you please, but it can also be stressful, soul-sucking necessity once money gets involved.

[–] meep_launcher@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago

Can confirm. I've gone full-time gigging musician. Don't get me wrong, I chose this path after exhausting all other options because it's the only career I can stomach, but when you make your hobby your job, your hobby becomes your job.

I've managed to pay rent and bills, but I still got credit card debt from the beginning when I was really scraping by. Every month feels like I'm unemployed until I get saved by a big gig, but it is quite terrifying still.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

I would consider many of the construction trades a form of art, and thats certainly still a job. Art is more a way of doing something than a specific action in my opinion. You can also create art in a way thats not expressive, which would mean the person making it might not be an artist.

[–] derfunkatron@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

This is a world-building element of Heinlein’s posthumous novel, For Us the Living, where UBI allows people to do art or other low-pay trades. The UBI system in the novel enables people who don’t want to work, are tired of work, or who aren’t good at working, to live and pursue what does make them happy since their livelihood doesn’t rely on working a job. Of course, Heinlein has some libertarian nonsense to harp on in the book, but it’s wild just how long we’ve known that there is enough to take care of us all and that working to live is a detriment individually and collectively.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

I used to be the kind of optimist that would largely agree with this post. But in the past decade I've seen the truth. Most people are profoundly uncurious and uncreative, even when encouraged to be.

[–] Corelli_III@midwest.social 3 points 3 days ago

Nope. ^1^

    1. I've met artists.
[–] ech@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago

"Is this rich kid privilege? Or is it really just [privilege described in a different way]?"

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