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Imagine being called too slow to accept new ideas by the fucking pope
this post was submitted on 04 Oct 2023
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For papal standards, Francis is quite progressive.
I mean he picked Francis as his name for a reason, and compared to all the last ones who declared themselves strong leaders of God's might I will take someone that cares about plants and animals
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Yes, he was even recognizing sexual abuse within church. Didn't do jack shit to prevent it, just recognized it. Give them another 600 years and thousands of ruined lives. They'll self-correct by then.
based pope
When the Catholic Church stops covering up the rampant sexual abuse and money grubbing cash grab scam operations then maybe I'll give two flying shits about what the Pope has to say.
People tend to overlook the fact that the words of someone with this level of influence are vitally important and can have enormous effects on the world.
Whether you in particular care about a famous/rich person's comments or not, there are millions that do--and that is important. Important enough that even without respecting that person, we should always take what they say and do very seriously.
You bring up a valid point so I won't debate. I still despise the institution that he represents and hope it all burns to the ground though.
Samesies
I really enjoyed this comment chain. Fuck organised religions, and this one in particular.
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It’s fine you don’t care, but there’s something like 1.4 billion Catholics that probably do.
Most Catholics don't listen to the Pope. The Pope says Catholics must accept gay people, but go to the third world or central america and see if Catholics follow that one.
The Pope says Catholics must accept Gay people, but won't give them the same right to marriage as straight people. Hypocrisy, although I guess he's probably worried all his clergy will try and marry the kids they're abusing.
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News about what the head of the Catholic church does is as important as news about what the head of USA, China or Russia does. It's hugely influencial even when it comes to lives of non-catholics, non-americans, non-chinese... because of the massive number of people that belong to the religion or state and the power that religion or state has. It's a good thing the pope talks against fossil fuel companies, because his influence is big.
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Many times the victims of priest sexual abuse have approached the Vatican for a meeting and blessing from the pope. Every time the pope has turned them away and refused to even acknowledge their existence, or their plight. His lawyers tell him it's not a good idea. And of course the representative of god, flanked by lawyers and bankers, listens to his lawyers over god.
Every time the pope has turned them away and refused to even acknowledge their existence
Where did you hear that? These articles seem to say the opposite.
Monday’s meeting between Francis and the six victims of church sexual abuse was not the first such meeting between a pontiff and survivors, but it was the first of Francis’ papacy.
2014 - https://www.cnn.com/2014/07/07/world/pope-clerical-sex-abuse/
“God weeps” for the sexual abuse of children, Pope Francis said Sunday in Philadelphia, after meeting with victims of sexual abuse.
2015 - https://www.cnn.com/2015/09/27/us/pope-francis-sex-abuse-victims/index.html
Pope Francis said he regularly meets with victims of sexual abuse on Fridays, and that while the percentage of priests who abuse is relatively low, even one is too many.
In the evening of the same day, Pope Francis held an audience with Portugese victims of sexual abuse by the Catholic Church.
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If only the church had billions of dollars to fight the evils of the world like hunger, homelessness, and pedos just to name a few.
Or you had the power to publicly shame Catholic leaders and say "you can't get into heaven until you stop sucking so bad"
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Oil companies will default to doing anything that makes them money. Governments need to make climate forcing cost them more than their revenue.
Exactly. US oil companies won't voluntarily "go green" unless it is more profitable to do so.
I was a production engineer at a US oil company for 5 years and each week I was instructed to calculate what the maximum amount of natural gas each well was allowed to flare while staying exactly below the legal limit. This is natural gas which cannot be sold so it is burned on-site which produces less greenhouse gases than just releasing it to the atmosphere.
Essentially, I was helping them pollute the maximum legal amount in order to maximize profit from the oil production. The gas pipelines hadn't been built yet but the oil company didn't want to wait for that since the oil is more valuable. This was A LOT of gas being burned. The fire balls were enormous and roared, sounding like a helicopter or jet engine at times.
Everything in the company worked this way. Old wells didn't get plugged and cleaned up until the local state government threatened fines. Leaks and spills were only monitored as closely as they were because the state had inspectors going around issuing hefty fines.
Yeah, this is the truth that people are too emotional to accept. I do air permitting and also spend every day calculating the "maximum allowable pollution" a site can produce while keeping it within applicable regulatory limits. Even if the CEO was like "alright, time to go green!" and devotes 100% of the profits to operating "green", they'll just get sued by the shareholders and be bankrupt or go to jail. Even if there are no shareholders, their operating costs will skyrocket and they'll be put out of business by the company next door, or even just Saud Arabia.
Passing government regulation is the only way. But we are also operating in a global economy, so you might just end up destroying your entire oil business in the process, sending all of that marketshare to places with even -worse- environmental regulation. Which just comes back to us anyways in the grand scheme of things.
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Fucking hell. All the simple minded people in these comments who have no sense of nuance or incremental benefits... nothing will ever be perfect enough for them and they will be just as helpful for fixing the messes of our society as the ones who deny it at this rate.
Yeah it's a little and yeah it's late but it's something and he can be right about this and problematic elsewhere. Not everything can be solved with the mindset of an 8 year old who thinks people are either good or evil
I think all the hate is justified. Pope has been quick to point fingers in various directions for a while now but he never moved a step to fix issues in his own yard making whole church extremely hypocritical.
Is he the same guy who refused to condemn Russia for invasion?
Nah, I'm pretty sure he was feuding with the head of the Russian Orthodox Church over it, even called him an alter boy.
even called him and alter boy.
That is a real pain in the ass insult.
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If I didn't know better, I'd think he was running for reelection.
Weak sauce from pontifex….. needs to be more biblical.
“Plagues floods etc - something something Almighty vengeance …. Blah blah…. Shaming not only us but god himself…… bathe in holy fires etc etc. …..purge before resetting Amen “”
That got shit done in the olden days .
Way too little, way too late.
"POPE CALLS FOR NATIONS TO IMPOSE 1000% TAX ON CARBON, ACCELERATE TRANSITION TO RENEWABLES", said no pope ever, to anyone.
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Why do the press even care what the pope says.
Because millions and millions of people care?
A lot of people live by what the pope says lol. Media obv just wants clicks and would give platform to anyone that does not hurt their interests.
Good for Pope Francis.
Same could be said about his religions action on molestation.
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