How much carbon dioxide was produced to build this fucking thing.
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And then to run it! I hate how these ideas get funding and are immediately being built without question. How much energy was put in the materials, in building it, and how much more will they need to run it to extract how much CO2 exactly? And then let's say it works. It works so well that in that region CO2 levels fall well below and reach normal levels. What then? They leave it there? Move it?
Ssssssh. Sssssssssssssssh. Only dreams now.
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How much environmental damage from surface disturbance and tailings?
Fuck this postt, this is all fiction. There are initiatives that AMERICA IS DESTROYING.
Occidental and 1PointFive can't secure permits, let alone funding, it's all hand waving slop.
3 fucking minutes of research is all it takes
I knew it was bullshit the moment I saw "The US is building..." and it wasn't a concentration camp
Hey now, we also build bigger and bigger stroads and bigger cars every year which kill more and more children every year.
I swear we won't stop with the urban sprawl until our entire country is covered in asphalt
Occidental's plant was purely greenwashing. They never had any intention of fixing the damage their company contributed.
Only if there was a small pipe or "smoke stack" that could emit these in super high concentrations of CO2 where we could just pipe it straight to the ground instead of capturing it through the air. Better yet, if we find all of those sources we could even stop them producing in the first place and leaving all the carbon in the ground. 🤔
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Well we still need to capture the excess CO2 that we’ve pumped into the air for the last 200 years.
There's actually a new kind of gas turbine thermodynamic cycle that does in fact emit super-critical CO2 in a highly concentrated form that is extremely easy to collect and sequester. https://netpower.com/technology/
They're building a 300MW facility in Texas right now. I'd say this is a really solid contender for a transitionary power generation while we stand around with our heads in the sand.
Yeah, capturing it from the source is way better than capturing from some random air. A capture rate of 90% as an addon to current coal/gas infra including cement production would buy us a ton of transition time
Trees are better carbon capture devices, you even get lumber from them.
I believe that's what OPs caption in the post body is getting at
And sea algae are even better.
I would probably name it T.R.E.E. Terrestrial Regeneration and Ecosystem Engine.
Fuck no I hope this fail, plant trees or die
In the middle of a desert? Planting trees is good, but its not enough to save us by itself.
Greenwashing is an issue, but so is avoiding complicated nuance by simply laughing at an idea without understanding it.
The country I live in is mostly powered by renewables, they focus on reducing emissions, then capture at source, but they are currently having a healthy nuanced debate on whether to implement something like this.
The original set of these were built without reguard to their specific carbon offset as they were built to be exerpimental and to experiment with the technology. As with almost anything on engineering.
Modern ones have to go through a Life Cycle Assement (LCA) where they figure out when the break-even point will be before they are built and they are typically built where there is renewable energy sources. They must be net carbon negative for government subsidy.
Arizona and Texas are mostly desert where trees may not be a viable option but they have solar and wind farms. Deforestation is awful and reforestation can be a great option but these two climates in particular have not had forrests for thousands of years.
The largest one in Texas is owned and operated by an oil company, likely powered by oil, and the CO2 is used to frack more oil. For them it needs to be net profit rather then net carbon negative. Protest and ridicule away.
Iceland has the most successful powered by geothermal and is over 90% net carbon negative already and likely to increase the longer it runs.
Other places inject the CO2 into concrete building blocks making them stronger and a viable non destructive form of storage.
Others turn them into burnable fuels effectively "recycling" the CO2.
Others use them for industrial production of urea, methanol, fire exstinguishers, or even for drink carbonation or food preservation. Scrubbing the air for CO2 instead of the traditional method of capturing off-gases.