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I've gotten a new phone and setting it up for the past few days - a Fairphone 5 with Android installed. So obviously, this means I can't escape Googles clutches. Sure, whatever.

I have been VERY adamant about pressing "No" on all prompts, that try to get me to try something out or use some dumb service. I do not want any AI tool or similar to go through my files.

Yet, while perousing the depths of my system settings, I realized Google Photos was using a suspicous amount of storage. Somehow, it had "synchronized" ALL my locally saved pictures - this included pictures of my vacations, my drivers license, private pictures I would have rather not shared, and so on...

And while checking the Google Photos App for the damage done, obviously it had already automatically generated "previews" and "albums" for me, neatly organized.

IT HAD AUTOMATICALLY ANALYSED MY DRIVERS LICENSE AND SAVED IT INTO AN ALBUM CALLED "Identity-related"

How the fuck is this legal? I am so mad at myself right now. I'm usually so fuckin cautious about denying any sort of pop-up and setting all settings as strictly as possible.

So obviously I just had to spent 2 hours figuring out how to turn this "synchronization" off, and how to delete all photos in google photos - spoiler alert: There is no "Delete All" button. You have to manually select every single fucking image.

Sorry for the rant, I hope it's not too off-topic. I'm just so mad right now.

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[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Google Photos fails to include a libre software license text file. We do not control it, anti-libre software.

What did you expect? LMAOO

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago

Ya. I'm sorry for you.

Problem is, even if you delete the Images, Google has already scraped them for info on you and used your Google account and phone number to tie it all together to further its data aggregation profile on you.

[–] sefra1@lemmy.zip 8 points 6 days ago

a Fairphone 5 with Android installed. So obviously, this means I can't escape Googles clutches

If you have a Fairphone then you can escape Google, Fairphones are one of the few phones that support third party ROMs. If they weren't so expensive I would buy one myself.

https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/FP5/

[–] nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de 53 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Yes, this happens. Even if you turn off all the syncing etc, they will shoot an update and all your settings will revert to default. This has happened with my father's phone a lot.

And even if you keep all these settings off, they are still scanning all photos to check for CSAM.

I highly recommend deGoogling your phone. If you cannot install a custom ROM, check out Universal Android Debloater. There are many sources for degoogling your life. Check out c/degoogle on Lemmy (I forgot the instance name, just search for it). ~~Or if you want we have small group on Signal for deGoogling related talks, DM me and I can share the link to join. (Signal does require a phone number to register, but since usernames are a thing your phone number will not be available publicly.)~~ That group link is disabled, but I can share other group links like Linux and FOSS, or other privacy related groups.

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There not even checking for CSAM

That would be near impossIble considering the tech. Even on a normal portrait is hard to judge the age on. Let alone fotos with more complex perspectives and only some body parts visible.

What they are doing is using hashes of specific real pictures that the police know are commonly shared.

Theoretically it could catch some careless content consuming offenders. The worst offenders, that produce new material, are beyond the scope.

But also, obvious what google gets is just the hashcodes and not the actual pics. If the police gave google a hash to target for pics of vances bald head or (trans-positive) memes who would know?

[–] nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

There was a news some time ago, that a man was arrested for clicking nude pictures of children, later it was found out that he was sending pictures of his child to a doctor for diagnosis. How did that happen?

I'll link the source if I find it.

Update:

NYTimes - https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/21/technology/google-surveillance-toddler-photo.html

Paywall removed - https://removepaywalls.com/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/21/technology/google-surveillance-toddler-photo.html

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 6 days ago

A Google spokeswoman said the company stands by its decisions, even though law enforcement cleared the two men.

They are literally too big to care.

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[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Not against your will, you accepted this and more in the TOS of your account. But you can avoid it in the permission settings in your phone.

The second biggest lie in Internet: "I've read the Privacy Policies and Terms of Service" the first one "We respect the privacy of the user".

https://neal.fun/dark-patterns/

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[–] Lojcs@piefed.social 17 points 1 week ago

Same thing happened to me, and there is a delete all button. Go to Google photos > top right profile pic > backup is off (or whatever it says when it's on) > top right gear > undo backup for this device.

[–] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Use /e/OS officially supported on fair phone 5

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[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 15 points 1 week ago

Event like this is what got me radicalized

[–] tradingcronjobsforsmack@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I'm sorry. There's really no way to undo this. Grieving and and moving on is the only option, and I am not being sarcastic. If my privacy was violated like that by google, I would be very upset and would grieve. Even if you complain, they won't remove it from AI training or whatever they intend to do, even if they lie and say they will. Librem 5's have no google in them if you want to switch to something else. FuriLabs also make a Debian smartphone.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

fairphones can also run custom roms. with calyxos the bootloader can even be relocked for security, it's done by the installer. that way google services are optional

[–] fluckx@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (5 children)

If you disable Google photos storage access you don't even have a camera roll :/

That's how embedded the damn thing is

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[–] lefaucet@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 week ago

It's kinda a pain to use 'cause so many apps rely on Google services, so those need to be replaced with alternatives, but e/OS is installable and is supported by Fairphone

https://community.e.foundation/t/install-e-os-v2-on-fairphone-5-my-little-guide/58260

[–] butsbutts@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago

google photos goes omnom

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Email their data protection officer and the government. They may get fined hundreds of millions of dollars for this

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Lol. Yeah and trump will get prosecuted for raping minors.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

We're talking about the EU, not some fascist country in America

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Oh I'm sorry. What I meant to say was that Tony Blair will be prosecuted for war crimes

[–] Ashiette@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

And again we're talking about the EU, not a fascist country in the British Isles.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

UK was EU when it happened.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

You must be new around here lol

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[–] Tundra@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago (9 children)

install e/os:

https://doc.e.foundation/devices/FP5

or:

CalyxOS releases are paused, but when they are back: https://calyxos.org/

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[–] Eternal192@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Have some dic pics that were uploaded that i sent to my gf when we started dating and i'm glad i didn't delete them because now they have to look at my junk every time they decide to go snooping around where they shouldn't.

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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago
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