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[–] stupid_asshole69@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Rather than going down the rabbit hole of faraday bags, why not gain a better understanding of how you are being tracked every day so you can take steps to alleviate your concern?

Elsewhere you said you don’t want to be tracked going to the doctors office, but if you drive there your cars license plate is being read by dozens of traffic cameras. If you walk or take a bus there are most likely cameras which are accessible to law enforcement that can be used for computer vision if they don’t already do so automatically.

In the event that you drove, it’s likely that your cars wheel mounted sensors are emitting unique rf signals even if it’s infotainment system doesn’t have immediate connectivity (it definitely does and is tracking and reporting unique ids of devices near it).

The places you went before the doctors office are selling your purchase history (that’s why they give you a deal when you enter your phone number at checkout!), your voter registration information is freely available to any group that can register a political organization and if you paid property taxes then those records are publicly accessible and searchable.

WiFi can even be used, experimentally at this point, to pinpoint the physical location of people in a room based only on how their bodies interfere with the high frequency signal.

The point of this post is not to send you into a panic but to help broaden the scope of stuff you’re considering and maybe help you come to a more complete solution.

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There is no opting out. We are in a nightmare. It has onlt started to bother me now that I have made a serious effort to address it, and I have failed miserably. My car is old so no worries there. But the google services and Gemini/Galaxy AIs on my phone piss me off. I can remove them, but get stuck in a bootloop and my phone will not work.

[–] stupid_asshole69@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My honest advice if you are concerned about the phone is to switch to ios, turn on automatic updates, turn on adp, turn on lockdown, do the privacy checkup wizard, install a doh/dot device management profile, setup a vpn you trust, either use a device management profile to implement it or that VPNs app if you trust the app and fastidiously go through the settings to improve your privacy further.

From that baseline you can build behaviors like always deleting web data and rotating device identifiers that can help you.

There are two reasons I make this recommendation: first, my goal is not perfect anonymity and privacy, but instead best effort. Im not choosing best effort, but instead recognizing that it’s all that’s within my ability. The best effort within my resources is using the hardware and software made by the company selling security along with careful configuration of settings to refine that.

The second is that my personal threat model is based on the police and recognizes that I am on tax records, voter rolls and many other public records. I am recognizable in my community and cannot “disappear”.

If you wanna make good choices for yourself, I’d recommend doing a foia request or whatever your governments equivalent is on yourself, purchasing yourself on some data brokers websites and going from there.

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[–] harsh3466@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

SLNT Faraday stuff is supposed to be good. I've never used one. Michael Bazzell recommends them.

They work good, phone lost all connectivity inside. So does Mission Darkness.

[–] dysprosium@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago (5 children)
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[–] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

Something meant to maintain a high or low temperature. A Thermos or pizza delivery bag or a bag for bringing frozen groceries home. Some might just be foam, but there are also ones with metalic coating or a steel shell.

[–] dysprosium@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago

Does a microwave work?

[–] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

From what I heard you won't find a real Faraday bag that works well and blocks almost all signals, those found on Amazon are really not that effective and only "military grade" bags could be useful in these kind of threats

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Okay. That means I need to chexk the surplus stores. Maybe I will get lucky.

[–] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't think that if real Faraday bags meant for military work they are avaible in surplus store for civilians

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is not bleeding edge tech.

[–] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

I know but don't think you could find them there. The only way of getting good ones is surely to buy some that seems reputable (aka not amazon shit) and test them in labs (maybe someone already done that and that Faraday bags recommandations exist online)

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You can always test, try calling your phone in different bags

[–] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago (7 children)

When talking about real and useful bags I'm talking about those that are blocking almost all the frequencies. Putting a device in a Faraday bag means that it's not safe at first so it should be able to block all frequencies not only "call frequencies"

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I wonder if I could somehow manage to whip up an experiment using the spectrum analyzer on my flipper zero. I would have to push the button while it is in the bag.

[–] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

You would need two flipper zero, one outside emitting on several frequencies and one inside trying to catch any frequencies from the outside one

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