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[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 98 points 1 week ago (1 children)

09:00, 10:00, 11:00, 12:00, 13:00, etc

[–] OldChicoAle@lemmy.world 57 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I wish everyone just used 24 hour format. Wtf is even this 12 hour crap. Why fuck up a system ?

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's because the 12-hour AM/PM time is older than people being comfortable with the concept of zero.

[–] OldChicoAle@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Same laziness that keeps America from switching to metric. Learning something new is so scary. I had to recently learn to use an ergonomic keyboard because my aging ass is getting carpel tunnel and it took a mere 3 days to learn. That's it. Now my quality of life will increase and I'm feeling better. People are afraid to work at something new. It's human nature but we are smart enough to realize that and make changes. But lazy. So no.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Nah, we should count up the hours since January 1, 1970 at midnight. What is this 24-hour crap??

[–] iveseenthat@reddthat.com 7 points 1 week ago

Or better: nanoseconds

[–] OddMinus1@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

May I promote my clock with 6 hour format? It reduces the need of one digit compared to 12hr clocks. It's great.

[–] karashta@sopuli.xyz 38 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

They come from Latin.

Ante meridies - before mid day

Post meridies - after mid day

If you think this is stupid, just wait until you look into how Rome did days of the month

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 11 points 1 week ago

The months themselves were fine until some emperor toddled along and fucked with them. Now Tenmonth is the 12th month. Ugh!

how about ad meridies for midday...? and ad noctis for midnight I guess

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

12 noon is mid day, so how can it be after itself?

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Everything after 12:00:00.000000...0 is technically after noon. However, there were (are?) different convention on whether noon is am or pm.

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[–] tiramichu@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

12:15 in the afternoon is uncontroversially 12:15 PM. I don't think anyone could disagree with that. So are 12:10 PM, and 12:01 PM.

By extension, noon can only be 12PM, not AM, because the the moment we go from 11:59 to 12:00 is the very instant the afternoon starts.

(I use 24h clock myself but that's another argument)

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

technically there's no 12am or 12pm. it's just 12 noon and 12 midnight. but for some situations it's easier to have 2 labels than 4, especially when two of them are reserved to 1 min a day. so they just am and pm for convenience. so the logic you explain is used.

[–] TheFriendlyDickhead@feddit.org 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The english way of telling time is stupid. In german we numerate from 0 to 24 for the whole day. 0 and 24 both mean midnight, but other then that its always clear what time you mean. In practice you can still say 4 to 4pm and everybody will understand you. But if you dont have context or want to be clear what you mean the other system is way better.

[–] essell@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

We have that in England too.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Yes that’s 100% simpler 80% of the time.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 15 points 1 week ago

24 hour time should be standard

[–] ElderReflections@fedia.io 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago

i would actually prefer that xD

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

12 AM = At Midnight

12 PM = Past Midnight

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Very logical. So 11am is 11 at midnight.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So not very logical after all

Mnemonics usually aren't. Absurdity helps make them memorable.

Thanks, but like jatone, it's still super annoying. And there is no way to be sure that the person reading will get it

[–] flamingos@feddit.uk 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

This is why I will always maintain that 12 AM is noon, even if barely anyone agrees with me. It's not like this is a settled matter anyway.

[–] dxc@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The Canadian way is intriguing. They don't fuck around, no am no pm, they just call it noon or midnight.

[–] damnthefilibuster@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

That feels correct, doesn’t it? There are always going to be special cases in all our human systems. Why not treat them as such? It’s so much easier to say 12 noon and 12 midnight (or even skip the 12 if you wanna).

[–] amzd@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

-3 -2 -1 +0 ???

[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 4 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The correct way would be "12 noon"

[–] Johandea@feddit.nu 9 points 1 week ago

The correct way would be 12, followed by 13, 14 and so on.

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[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Yes, it is daft. After 11pm should be 12pm and then 1am.

[–] lefixxx@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

"12 AM" and "12PM" is nonsense and should never be used. It's either midnight or noon.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Congrats, guys. This is easily the stupidest conversation I've ever witnessed on Lemmy 👌

Then you're not on Lemmy enough this is downright lucid

[–] craftrabbit@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

..., 9 am, 10 am, 11 am, noon, 1 pm, 2pm, ...

[–] kartoffelsaft@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago (4 children)

..., 9:30 am, 10:30 am, 11:30 am, noon:30, 1:30 pm, 2:30 pm, ...

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