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I've seen a few articles saying that instead of hating AI, the real quiet programmers young and old are loving it and have a renewed sense of purpose coding with llm helpers (this article was also hating on ed zitiron, which makes sense why it would).

Is this total bullshit? I have to admit, even though it makes me ill, I've used llms a few times to help me learn simple code syntax quickly (im and absolute noob who's wanted my whole life to learn code but cant grasp it very well). But yes, a lot of time its wrong.

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[–] MXX53@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago

I like using it. Mostly for quick ideation, and also for getting rid of some of the tedious shit I do.

Sometimes it suggests a module or library I have never heard of, then I go and look it up to make sure it is real, not malicious and well documented.

I also like using my self hosted AI to document my code base in a readme following a template I provide. It gets it pretty good and usually is like 60-80% accurate and to the form I like. I just edit up the remaining and correct mistakes. Saves me a ton of time.

I think the best way to use AI is to use it like a tool. Don’t have it write code for you, but use it to enhance your own ability.

[–] jasory@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago

I'm not a software dev but rather a mathematical researcher. I see zero use for myself or designing any advanced or critical systems. LLM coding is like relying on stack overflow, if you want to solve a novel or sophisticated problem relying on them is the wrong approach.

[–] AlphaOmega@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm a full stack web dev. I use it for HTML and CSS (sometimes) else it's a big waste of time trying to get working modern PHP and JS out of it. Least that's been my experience

[–] beeng@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yes.

Use Claude Sonnet 4

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's good for what it's good, and bad for what it's bad.

If you only use it for what is good I would suppose it would be easy to be more productive. Sometimes is faster to ask an LLM than trying to surf through pages of SO "repeated question" to get an answer.

I use mostly for things like that, questions, translation between languages (for instance having some working code in one language that you want to quickly translate to other language), boiler plate of well known algorithms and functions.

For full programming development I've no luck to make it work. And trusting it to refactor all your code would be something hilarious.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago

I sometime describe it as an intern. Its useful but many of the things its useful for replicates things that addons in the ide did anyway. Its also handy for web searches to be a bit quicker. Ultimately I don't see it going away.

[–] communism@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

I wouldn't know about professionally as I don't work in the industry, but anecdotally a lot of young people I see use LLMs for everything. Meanwhile in the FOSS community online I see very little of AI/LLMs. I think it's a cultural thing that will vary depending on what circle of people you're looking at.

[–] pelya@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm okay with AI-powered autocomplete, or with AI-powered mock project generator. Anything beyond that seems like the management's misguided attempt at ~~having more meetings~~raising productivity.

I'm not using AI, and I rarely use IDE, because ugh, code editor is not fullscreen, and I don't need a separate panel to navigate project tree and edit makefiles, I can perfectly use the shell for that, and I don't even need to wiggle the mouse like some graphics designer to debug my code.

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[–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 0 points 1 week ago

I do and it’s great for small tasks. Wouldn’t trust it on an existing code base or more than a hundred lines of code.

I always review what it does and often cherry pick stuff

The only thing I vibe code are small websites / front ends because fuck HTML,CSS,JS

[–] patrick@lemmy.bestiver.se -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] hono4kami@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago

Not sure why you're sharing this. This is one of the worst blog post I've read this year. The amount of name calling is unnecessary, childish. It's just not good.

[–] RheumatoidArthritis@mander.xyz -4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Programmers are promoted to architects who write high-level specs with a subordinate to do the leg work (AI). I think the hate is because not everyone is good at planning and some people are better at perfecting implementation details, and AI isn't helpful there.

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