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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 47 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'd ask for the stupid AI scanning system to scan my car before I agree to renting it. Once they sign off on the 'all clear' notification from their AI scanner before rental, then I'd consider renting it .... but after reading this headline, I'd probably just tell them, I'm spending a few hundred dollars more on renting a car from someone else.

[–] johntash@eviltoast.org 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You should also ask for a copy of the pictures or videos it takes while scanning so you can reference when returning.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 week ago

And they will totally provide those to you, no problem.

[–] Clasm@ttrpg.network 28 points 1 week ago

Just spit balling here, but they probably tune the AI for different thresholds between return and rent out so that they can rake in the damage fees for things that "weren't there" during the first AI scan.

[–] naught101@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Sounds like that shit with dodgy smoking detection in a hotel from last week..

[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Yup intentionally using dogy tools to extract more money from people under false pretenses, at this point I'm boycotting any company that claims to use AI, fuck em all

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[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 week ago

Those do exactly what they're supposed to do. They're even explicitly advertised as providing new revenue streams.

[–] Vorticity@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago

I get why they'd use something like this to save money and time but, is suspect that correct use would include a human check before charging people.

We need to start pushing for laws on this kind of thing. Automated checks are fine if you, as the company, trust they won't have too many false negatives. If you aren't checking for false positives, though, you should be heavily fined for each false report. $25,000 per false report sounds like a good place to start. Hopefully that would be large enough to not just be the cost of doing business.

[–] MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Never rent a car from Hertz, check.

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Hertz has also called the cops on their customers for a variety of asinine reasons.

I steer clear of them and Enterprise (Enterprise has been working the whole shaft for ICE).

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Okay so...in the rare event I need to rent a car, any suggestions on who to use that isn't Hertz and sister companies?

[–] callouscomic@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I've had a lot of good recent experiences with Enterprise (in the US). There's some interesting services like Turo, but I can't bring myself to try it yet. Weirdly too personal being other people's cars.

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Enterprise and Alamo is owned by the same family which means they aren’t beholden to public shareholders. Usually this means the company is ran better and not as haphazardly as public ones tend to be.

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[–] dethmetaljeff@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I recently used Avis, they were totally cromulent.

[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Plus they are worshipped as a god in some sectors of the universe.

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[–] BigDiction@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

I rent through Costco and try to pick Alamo when possible. Avis is decent but they often share a line with Budget which can take forever.

I’m not a loyalty member of any brand for reference.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

SIXT and TURO. Maybe price out renting the big truck from Lowe's/home depot. Or a haul. Both might be cheaper than hertz/enterprise depending on your area.

[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 week ago

Sixt is specifically called out as AI lying about damages in Germany.

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[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I wonder what a credit card dispute would result in here. Underutilized feature when businesses pull shady shit. Think I've had 6 or so disputes over the years, never failed.

[–] TeddE@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (16 children)

Too many people these days don't use or have access to credit cards for services like this. Many people I know only use bank debit cards, or worse, use the debit preloaded cash cards issued by their employers' payroll service provider.

Credit cards motivate banks to help you, because if you won't pay, and the business doesn't pay, the bank has to take the hit.

Debit cards will work as well if your bank values it's reputation - but not all banks do.

And I would not trust a preloaded card provider to assist. You are neither their business partner nor their customer and that puts your interests at the bottom of a very long list. You have to hope some law is on your side or that your issue is so trivial that resolving it is more cost effective then dealing with you.

[–] Underwaterbob@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Huh? I don't think I've ever used a rental car service that didn't require a credit card. Exactly so they can charge for this sort of thing.

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[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

You mean an LLM that doesn't have the ability to understand context fails to make decisions that require context to do properly? Shocking /s

[–] coach_cheese@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Except they are using computer vision, not an LLM

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[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago

Hertz is a ripoff and a hassle and little else

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Aivis. Trai harder.

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 week ago

Fair game. Give me a grease pen and let me mark everything I see. By the time I'm done, they'll owe me money.

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