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[–] Old_Jimmy_Twodicks@sh.itjust.works 98 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, but I think I have like half of those devices in a desk drawer.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Why? I have had the same phone for the last 5 years.

[–] accideath@lemmy.world 32 points 9 months ago

Because people (like myself) do that with their old phone to have a backup that’s not horrifically outdated but that isn’t actually needed day to day

[–] dataprolet@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 9 months ago (2 children)

85 % probably have outdated firmware.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 24 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

That number probably higher. However that changes nothing as we can't control proprietary firmware blobs.

Honestly there is no way of knowing anything about the security of those blobs. Firmware vendors can do whatever they want.

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[–] lemmytellyousomething@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Why? I don't understand. Doesn't it have any update mechanism for that?

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 23 points 9 months ago (2 children)

They mean that the device manufacturer and or hardware vendors are no longer putting out updates for the proprietary blobs.

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[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 28 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It's a really nicely built OS, well documented, and the install process is streamlined as much as possible (with detailed instructions).

I really hope we can get enough attention and support to this project (as well as others like it) for it to get mainstream.

[–] Amir@lemmy.ml 41 points 9 months ago (3 children)

for it to get mainstream

It will never get more mainstream than this.

Lineage has been the go-to ROM that beat every other ROM in active users by one or more orders of magnitude since the beginning of Android. Everyone that cares a little bit about custom ROMs knows what Lineage is, and if they don't they will recognize its previous name CyanogenMod.

Average users are never going to care about custom ROMs because it's not worth the effort for them, so why would you care about making LOS more mainstream?

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

Welp, TIL it's just CyanogenMod and you are correct, turns out I did know of and use it a decade ago.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

More people using a thing (in this case I mean FOSS more than LOS specifically) influences the market, companies start to notice and may even be forced to adapt. Large private monopolistic ecosystem are really bad for everything.

It would make things easier for smaller brands to enter market as well - like what Raspberry/Banana Pi but for phones.

Also the official list of supported devices (wiki.lineageos.org/devices) has a super easy install process. Mainstream would mean more of these (eg the latest flagship Samsung supported is S10/Note10). And expanding this list would make a huge difference in addition - not everyone that knows about custom ROMs is tech savvy (or just wants a stable OS with OTA).

[–] Mkengine@feddit.de 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

And this is also only the official list, there are unofficial ports for much newer Samsung devices like the Samsung S20 FE

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[–] ondoyant@beehaw.org 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

because adopting open source software is a societal good? the idea that it won't grow is kind of bleak. the industry standard for android device OS is dogshit for user privacy and a private monopoly and that's something we should want fixed. unless you like living under constant corporate surveillance.

[–] Amir@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 months ago

I never said I didn't want it to get popular, I just think there's no point in trying to spread the word about its existence... because the problem is not in people knowing about its existence. The problem is that most average phone users will not find it worth the effort to switch to LOS, with the risks that come with it (banking apps not working half the time, upgrades sometimes needing a data wipe).

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[–] JulesTheModest@sh.itjust.works 25 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I use it on my old Pixel 3a to play livestream bird feeders for one of my cats.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 10 points 9 months ago

And did your Pentester find any vulnerabilities yet? XD

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[–] GOTFrog@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 9 months ago (11 children)

I always wanted to try it, but my bank wont let me login if I'm not on on the devices OG OS, I used to run Custom ROM until that started to happen.

[–] kalpol@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Meanwhile, the OG OS has more vulnerabilities probably

[–] GOTFrog@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 months ago

Yes so freaking annoying

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 9 months ago

Try the bank’s web site. Companies all push apps to harvest all your data. Very few compute services actually need them.

[–] mudeth@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

There are workarounds:

Install magisk, add the app to the zygisk denylist before first run.

Install ~~universal safetynet fix and magisk hide props config (modules for magisk).~~

For some apps, you may have to install them in island so that they can't detect the magisk app.

[–] moitoi@feddit.de 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You need play integrity fix instead of safetynet and just activating zygisk should be fine on latest magisk.

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[–] disheveledWallaby@lemmy.ml 9 points 9 months ago

Still running on my GalaxyS4. Lite, stable and reliable.

[–] TheFresh16@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If someone could crack the verizon bootloader lock that would be great. Have wanted lineage for years on my old pixel!

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[–] evo@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Is that supposed to be a lot?

Whenever Google kills a feature used by <1% people always cite that is still over a million people. But nobody looks at the reverse. 1.5 million Lineage users doesn't even make up a tenth of a single percent of Android overall.

[–] nasi_goreng@lemmy.zip 25 points 9 months ago

For an OS that you need to install manually, it's definitely a lot.

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[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I am really tempted to try and set this up on one of my devices. Never messed with this before so it's a bit intimidating

I have no idea what I'm doing but I imagine I should be able to. I have a xiaomi redmi note 10 and a galaxy tab a8 tablet laying around not really being used.

[–] kalpol@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Follow the guides, if you have a supported phone. It is really nice for supported devices. But do follow the instructions exactly.

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[–] Legendsofanus@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

How can I do this? I have an old Realmi stuck on Android 9

[–] accideath@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Depends. 1st you need to find out if your phone/manufacturer allows unlocking the bootloader. No unlocking, no custom rom, no lineage os. If it is supported, you need to find a lineageOS rom for your phone. There is an official lineageOS website where you can find compatible devices. If it’s not listed there (which is not unlikely), you can search the web for unofficial lineageOS roms or other custom roms. Be careful, some of your phone’s features might not work properly or at all but most custom rom developers provide you with a list of what is and isn’t working.

And for the installation part, it’s probably better to look up a full tutorial on the web as installing a custom recovery that you need to install the rom can be a bit tricky…

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[–] sebsch@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I would love to use lineage or /e/ again on my phone, but Google's Foto app is Soo good compared to all of the foss apps out there. Especially if you like modes like super-macro I did not find anything near that. This is a shame bc/ I've used an degoogled device for over an decade now.

Does anyone have an idea how I could come back on the good side without loosing the functionality of that app?

[–] ultra@feddit.ro 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

You cam use the pixelify module. It adds many pixel-exclusive features, including the google photos app!

[–] okamiueru@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Maybe I'm not aware what I'm missing out on. On GrapheneOS on a Pixel phone, you can install the camera app made by Google. com.google.android.GoogleCamera. Has some fancy features, but maybe not the ones you are referring to?

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[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 4 points 9 months ago

Had some trouble running it on my Azus Zenphone, but now on my Fairphone it works flawlessly.

The camera was horrible back then.

[–] zettajon@lemdro.id 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Does LineageOS work with Google Family Link if I add gapps?

[–] saba@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I can't confirm if all features are working, but possibly. My case is that I have LineageOS on my phone and my son has an Amazon tablet that I've used Fire Toolbox on to install Google Playstore and services. I'm able to approve/deny apps for him to install (I get the notification on Family Link on my phone), but some things aren't working because I'm having trouble with Play services on the tablet.

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[–] portside@monyet.cc 4 points 9 months ago

I am using this, best decision I've ever taken. Using my device feels new again. There is still the issue with play integrity. Apart from that everything's good so far.

[–] Dinerty@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Remember the Cyanogen days, good times.

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